2014 Honda Pilot Tires & Wheels Problems

LEAKS IN TWO OF 4 PIRELLI SCORPION VERDE TIRES WERE DIAGNOSED BY MECHANIC AS PLY DELAMINATIONS CAUSING MULTIPLE PINHOLE LEAKS AND INDICATING A NEED FOR IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENT. I FOUND MULTIPLE REPORTS OF DESTRUCTIVE DELAMINATIONS IN SERVICE ON THE NHSTA SITE, BUT NO RECALL. TIRES ARE 235/60 R18, DATE CODES 4217 AND 4717 TOTAL MILEAGE UNKNOWN (IN PLACE WHEN VEHICLE PURCHASED USED, PURPORTEDLY NEW BUT MORE THAN A YEAR OLD BY DATE CODE, LESS THAN 20,000 MILES THAT I KNOW OF, PLENTY OF TREAD LEFT.) HAVE LEAKED SLOWLY FOR A WHILE, ASSUMED IT WAS VALVE STEM SEALS, ASKED MECHANIC TO LOOK AT IT. TIRES ARE PRESENTLY INTACT, LEAK SLOWLY WHETHER PARKED OR DRIVING ON STREETS OR HIGHWAYS, WILL BE REPLACED ASAP, BUT ARE OBVIOUSLY DEFECTIVE.

BOTH FRONT TIRE RIMS ON MY 2014 HONDA PILOT HAVE HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO CRACKED RIMS. THE LEFT FRONT RIM HAS BEEN REPLACED TWICE. THE RIGHT FRONT IS NOW CRACKED. THIS CAR IS DRIVEN UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS. LEFT FRONT FIRST CRACK WAS IN 2017. LEFT FRONT SECOND CRACK 13 MONTHS LATER. RIGHT FRONT CRACKED RIM NOV 2018.

SINCE PURCHASING THIS VEHICLE WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS RIMS CRACK ALONG THE WELDS. WE ARE AT OUR THIRD THAT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED NOW. THE FIRST WAS REPLACED BY THE DEALER AT NO COST TO US, THE SECOND WE HAD TO PAY (DEALER COST) FOR THE RIM AND WERE TOLD IF IT HAPPENED AGAIN IT WOULD NO LONGER BE THEIR PROBLEM. I DRIVE IN NORMAL CONDITIONS, TO AND FROM MY KIDS SCHOOL(ROUND TRIP ON PAVED CITY STREETS 2 MILES) AND TO WORK (AGAIN ROUND TRIP ON CITY STREETS MAX 18 MILES). THE VEHICLE HAS NOT HIT ANY CURBS OR MAJOR POT HOLES ON ANY OF THESE OCCURRENCES. TODAY WHEN LEAVING FOR THE DAY WE HAD OUR TIRE PRESSURE LIGHT ON IN THE CAR. WE FILLED THE AIR AND WITHIN 3 HOURS IT WAS LIT UP AGAIN. ONCE WE ARRIVED HOME AND PARKED WE PLACED WATER ON THE WELD IN THE SAME SPOT AS THE LAST CRACK AND SURE ENOUGH IT IS LEAKING AT A CRACK IN THE WELD AGAIN. THIS IS NOT ONLY A HASSLE, BUT HAD THESE WHEELS FAILED CATASTROPHICALLY IT COULD BE FATAL FOR MY CHILD AND MY FAMILY. THE HONDA DEALER IN SANTA ROSA, CA HAS IMPLIED THAT IT IS MY DRIVING THAT HAS CAUSED THESE CRACKS. I HAVE BEEN ONLINE AND SEEN NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT FAULTY WELDS ON THIS YEAR PILOT. THERE IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE AND IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND RECALLED.

CRACKED RIMS IT HAS HAPPEN TWICE

THREE RIMS ARE LEAKING AND I'VE TAKEN THEM TO HONDA ON MULTIPLE OCASIONES AND THE ONLY THING THEY'VE WOULD TELL ME IS THE IT NEEDED AIR IN THEM. WHEN I TOOK THE PILOT TO DISCOUNT TIRES FOR A TIRE REPAIR THEY ADVISE ME THAT IT WAS A RIM PROBLEM.

3 OUT OF 4 STEEL WHEELS ON MY 2014 HONDA PILOT GOT A CRACK AND AN AIR LEAK ISSUE. THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN DRIVEN IN THE NORMAL CONDITIONS AND IT HAS NEVER HIT A CURVE OR ANYTHING. IT OCCURRED ON THE FIRST WHEEL ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND HONDA REPLACED IT UNDER WARRANTY AS THEY RECOGNIZED A WELDING ISSUE WHICH WAS CAUSING A CRACK AND LEAK INSIDE OF THE WHEEL. SECOND AND THIRD ONE OCCURRED BACK TO BACK IN A PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. WHERE LEAKING WAS FOUND WAS EXACTLY SAME JOINT AREA INSIDE OF THE WHEEL WITH THE FIRST ONE AND I HAD TO REPLACE BOTH OF THEM. THIS DEFINITELY CONCERNS THE SAFETY ISSUE AS THE WHEELS ARE FALLING APART.

WE HAVE HAD 3 CRACKS IN THE WHEEL OF THIS 2014 HONDA PILOT VEHICLE. OUR CAR IS GARAGED AT NIGHT AND IS DRIVEN TO WORK (PART TIME). THE FIRST WHEEL WENT BAD WITH A LEAKING CRACK ON 8/5/17, THE SECOND WHEEL HAD A CRACK FOUND ON 10/23/17, AND THE THIRD WHEEL WENT BAD WITH LEAKING CRACK ON 9/28/17. THREE OUT OF FOUR WHEELS WITH THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM. ALL THREE TIMES THE TIRE LIGHT INDICATED THE PROBLEM. I HAVE COMPLETE RECORDS INCLUDING DEALER RECEIPTS FOR ALL THREE INCIDENENCES. NEVER ONCE WERE WE OFFERED ANY TYPE OR RESTITUTION. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MANUFACTURER DEFECT THAT DESERVES THE FULL INVESTIGATION OF NHTSA. I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH HONDA USA AND A SMALL CLAIMS SUIT AS NEEDED.

WHEEL WELDS ARE FAULTY. THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN DRIVEN UNDER NORMAL DRIVING CONDITIONS SINCE THE DATE OF PURCHASE. HOWEVER, A HAIRLINE FRACTURE APPEARS IN THE WHEEL WELD CAUSING THE TIRE TO DEFLATE. THE VEHICLE WAS ORIGINALLY PURCHASED IN JANUARY OF 2014 AND THREE WHEELS HAVE BEEN REPLACED TO DATE BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE. WHILE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MANUFACTURING DEFECT, MY CONCERN IS WITH CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE WHEEL CAUSING UNNECESSARY INJURY OR FATALITY. *TR

AT 29,000 MILES (JULY 2015) THE RIGHT REAR TIRE RIM FAILED AT A WELD JOINT. IT WAS REPLACED BY HONDA. AT 35,400 MILES (APRIL 2016) ANOTHER RIM FAILED FOR THE SAME REASON. AT 42,800 MILES (JULY 2016) THE THIRD RIM FAILED DUE TO A BAD WELD JOINT. BOTH SECOND AND THIRD RIMS WERE ALSO REPLACED BY HONDA. HONDA REFUSED TO REPLACE THE REMAINING RIM, WHICH AT THE TIME WAS STILL FUNCTIONING, BUT STATISTICALLY WILL FAIL. THEY DID NEGOTIATE AND AGREE TO SELL TO US A NEW RIM AT COST, AND PROVIDE THE MOUNTING OF THE TIRE. ALL THREE RIM FAILURES WERE PRESUMABLY THE RESULT OF OVER-HEATED WELDING, WHICH PENETRATED THE RIM BARREL. AFTER A RANDOM PERIOD OF TIME AND STRESS FLEXING FROM THE ROAD SURFACE, TINY AIR CHANNELS DEVELOPED THROUGH PARTS OF THE WELDING JOINT, ALLOWING AIR TO SLOWLY ESCAPE. ALL THREE FAILURES WERE NOTICED VIA THE TIRE PRESSURE SENSORS SENT TO THE FRONT PANEL INDICATOR.

ON 9-1-15 I TOOK MY CAR TO METRO HONDA IN MONTCLAIR BECAUSE MY TIRE WAS LEAKING AIR, IN WHICH IT WAS FOUND THAT MY HONDA FACTORY RIM WAS CRACKED AT THE POINT WHERE IT IS WELDED TOGETHER. MY RIM WAS REPLACED WITH ANOTHER HONDA FACTORY RIM. THEN ON 3-1-16 I TOOK MY CAR BACK TO METRO HONDA BECAUSE ANOTHER TIRE WAS LEAKING AIR, AND AGAIN IT WAS FOUND ANOTHER RIM (DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST ONE) WAS CRACKED AT THE POINT WHERE IT IS WELDED TOGETHER. I CALLED HONDA CORPORATION ASKING FOR FURTHER INSPECTION OF MY CAR TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE RIMS. HONDA CORPORATION REFUSED TO FURTHER INSPECT MY VEHICLE. ON 6-28-16 MY TIRE WAS LEAKING AIR, AND AGAIN IT WAS FOUND THAT ANOTHER HONDA FACTORY RIM WAS CRACKED AT THE POINT WHERE IT WAS WELDED TOGETHER. 3 OUT OF MY 4 RIMS HAVE ALL CRACKED, CAUSING TIRE DAMAGE AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR ME TO DRIVE.

OVER A PERIOD OF TIME FROM JAN 2016 TO THE PRESENT, I HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH FLAT TIRES TOOK TO TIRE SHOP THEY DETERMINED IT WAS A CRACK IN THE WELD OF THE RIM FRONT PASSENGER TIRE. DEALERSHIP REPLACED THE RIM. THEN A MONTH LATER DIFFERENT TIRE SAME ISSUE CRACK IN THE WELD OF THE REAR PASSENGER RIM. DEALERSHIP NOW HAS THAT RIM ON ORDER THEY ARE GOING TO REPLACE. BOTH WERE LOCATED IN THE ORIGINAL FACTORY WELD.

OVER A PERIOD OF TIME FROM 2/14/16 UNTIL 2/29/16, I HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH FLAT TIRES DUE TO CRACKS IN THE WELD OF A RIM. ONE WAS DISCOVERED AND I HAD IT REPAIRED. ON THE 29TH, WHILE HAVING ANOTHER FLAT CHECKED, TWO MORE CRACKS WERE DISCOVERED ON THE SAME RIM, BUT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAN THE ORIGINAL CRACK. ALL THREE WERE LOCATED IN THE ORIGINAL FACTORY WELD.

I HAVE BEEN NOTICING THAT WHEN I BRAKE MY VEHICLE SHAKES - TOOK IT IN TO HAVE THE BRAKES DONE AND THE DEALERSHIP TOLD ME THAT MY BRAKES LOOKED BRAND NEW AND WANTED TO SEND ME ON MY WAY. I ASKED WELL WHY IS IT SHAKING THEN AND I WAS TOLD THAT MAYBE THE ROATERS NEEDED MACHINING A $207 SERVICE. THIS WAS AFTER THEY DID NOT BOTHER TO CALL ME TO TELL ME MY VEHICLE WAS READY I JUST HAPPENED TO SHOW UP AN HOUR AFTER MY SCHEDULED APPT TIME SO MACHINING MY ROATERS WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER HOUR TO 2 HOUR WAIT. (NOT HAPPY) SO I LEFT AND I AM STILL DEALING WITH THE VIBRATION. I ALSO NOTICED WITHIN THE PAST WEEK AFTER HAVING TO DRIVE IN HEAVY RAINFALL THAT WHEN GOING ABOVE 45 MPH I HYDROPLANE BADLY - TO THE POINT WHERE I ALMOST HIT A CONCRETE BARRIER ON THE HIGHWAY. THE PUDDLE OF WATER WAS NOT, IN MY OPINION, LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE CREATED SUCH HYDROPLANING, NEITHER WAS MY SPEED. ENDED UP DRIVING MY HUSBANDS JEEP UNTIL THE RAIN SUBSIDED BECAUSE NOW I'M SCARED OF DRIVING MY CAR IN THE RAIN. I DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE "REPAIR" BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY DIDN'T EVEN TAG MY VEHICLE. I WILL BE TAKING IT BACK THIS WEEKEND CONSIDERING I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON HAVING THIS ISSUE APPARENTLY.

I FILED A COMPLAINT IN FEBRUARY CONCERNING CRACKS IN THE WELDS ON THE RIM OF A WHEEL. 6/2/16, I HAD A SLOW LEAK IN A TIRE AND WHILE REPLACING THE TIRE, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE RIM HAD FORMED A CRACK IN THE WELD. I ENDED UP PURCHASING A RIM AT MY OWN EXPENSE TO REPLACE THE FIRST RIM (THE DEALER HAS REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR EITHER RIM). I LIVE ON A DIRT ROAD, BUT HAVE NOT HIT ANY POTHOLES, CURBS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT SEEMED A POSSIBLE CAUSE OF THE CRACKS. IN FACT, SINCE THE INCIDENT WITH THE FIRST RIM, I HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS ABOUT POT HOLES, RAIL ROAD CROSSINGS, MY SPEED ON DIRT ROADS ETC.