2004 Land Rover Discovery Brakes Problems

The contact owns a 2004 Land Rover Discovery. The contact stated that the check engine warning light was illuminated. While driving approximately 35 MPH and depressing the brake pedal, the brakes failed to immediately stop the vehicle. The contact aggressively slammed on the brake pedal to stop the vehicle. Additionally, while driving at various speeds, the vehicle was slightly drifting to the left. The vehicle was taken to a certified mechanic, who diagnosed that the EVAP was leaking and needed to be replaced. The EVAP was replaced. The mechanic had not diagnosed the brake failure. The vehicle was picked up, and the dealer informed the contact to drive the vehicle for another 25 miles to see if the check engine warning light would illuminate again. The contact stated that after leaving the dealer, 48 miles later, the check engine warning light illuminated again. The contact called the mechanic, who decided not to inspect the vehicle again, but instead refunded the cost for the previous repair. The manufacturer was not informed of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 106,683.

SEEMS AS IF EITHER THE BRAKE BOOSTER OR A PART OF THE BRAKING SYSTEM IS NOT PROVIDING AMPLE STOPPING POWER. THE VEHICLE HAS A DIFFICULT TIME STOOPING IN A HARD BRAKING SCENARIO EITHER FROM HIGHWAY SPEEDS OR FROM A COMPLETE STOP AT A STOP SIGN WHEN WE REALIZED A VEHICLE WAS COMING AND HAD TO SLAM ON THE BRAKES THE VEHICLE DID NOT STOP AS IT SHOULD HAVE. I HAVE HEARD OF THIS BEING AN ISSUE AND THOUGHT THERE WAS ALREADY A RECALL BUT YOUR WEBSITE SAYS OTHERWISE.

VEHICLE IN MOTION TRAVELING AT APPROX 5-7 MPH. ZIP CODE 06615 WHEN 3 ABS SENSOR LIGHTS WENT ON 1. HILL DESCENT 2. ABS 3.TRACTION CONTROL. RECENT ABS SHUTTLE SWITCH REPLACED FOR SAME REPORTED SENSOR LIGHTS FAILURE. VEHICLE WAS NOT ON AN INCLINE AND AT AN INTERSECTION AND LIGHT. AFTER PASSING INTERSECTION CARS WERE ENTERING STREET FROM SIDE. TRIED TO SLOW DOWN AS CAR PULLED OUT AND COULD NOT. ANOTHER CAR PULLED OUT.. TRIED TO MOVE AROUND CAR SINCE CAR WOULD NOT SLOW DOWN. UPON PUTTING MORE PRESSURE ANTI LOCK VIBRATION BEGAN AND CAR HAD SENSATION OF ' LOCKING UP ' ON A WHEEL AND FELT AS IF THE CAR WAS EITHER SLIDING OR 'NOT HAVING ANY BRAKE' CONTROL. AND STEERING SEEMED TO BE AFFECTED. HAD TO CROSS ONCOMING CAR LANE TO VEER AWAY FROM CARS PULLING INTO MY LINE AS CAR WAS NOT HANDLING PROPERLY. HAD TO GO OFF THE FAR LEFT SIDE OF ROAD ONTO SIDEWALK, GRASS OF A PRIVATE RESIDENCE LAWN AND WENT THROUGH A FENCE. WHEN I TOOK MY FOOT OFF THE BRAKE AND BEGAN TO BRAKE AGAIN THE SENSATION WAS AS IF PRESSURE WAS NOT PUMPED INTO BRAKE LINE AND WAS ABLE TO THEN STOP THE CAR. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I COULD NOT STOP THE VEHICLE FROM ANTILOCK FAILURE. THE FIRST TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS WEATHER RELATED ROAD CONDITIONS HOWEVER I WAS TRAVELING SLOWLY APPROACHING A RED LIGHT AND HAD TO GO THROUGH THE LIGHT BECAUSE CAR WOULD NOT STOP. THE CAR HAS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. FOUR OTHER CARS WERE AVOIDED AS I LOST CONTROL FAILURE OF BRAKES. WHEEL SENSOR SPEED AND STEERING. NO ONE INJURED. VEHICLE WAS ON MAIN STREET AT LUNCH TIME WHEN THERE WAS ACTIVITY ON MAIN STREET. 3 RECALLS FOR THIS MODEL ON RECORD. 1 RECALL FOR THIS CAR WAS DRIVE SHAFT RELATED FAILURE AND VIBRATION IN ADVANCE. I EXPERIENCED THIS AND THE DRIVE SHAFT DID BRAKEDOWN ON A SMALL ROAD CAUSING CAR TO GO OUT OF CONTROL. FIREMAN 1ST RESPONDER HELPED ME TO SAFETY. DRIVESHAFT RECALL FOR 2004 MODEL WAS IN 2012. POLICE REPORT: 16-10673.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ABS MODULATOR VALVE COVER AND BOLTS WERE REPLACED TWICE AND HAD RECENTLY FAILED A THIRD TIME. THE CONTACT'S MECHANIC ADVISED THAT THERE WAS A RECALL FOR THE FAILURE UNDER NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 04V005000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC: ANTILOCK). THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 61,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 104,000.

AT 45 MPH HAD TO APPLY HARD BRAKING , THE TRUCK'S BRAKING SYSTEM RESPONDED POORLY CAUSING EXTRA LONG BRAKING DISTANCE. THE ABS , HILL DESCEND & TRACTION CONTROL WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON JUST BEFORE THE INCIDENT.

FAILURE OF ABS SYSTEM WHILE DRIVING. 3-4 TIMES PER WEEK WHILE CITY DRIVING THE ABS/HILL DESCENT/TRACTION CONTROL WARNING LIGHTS AND CHIMES COME ON. THE SYSTEM TYPICALLY RESETS AFTER STOPPING AND RE-STARTING THE VEHICLE (SOMETIMES REQUIRES NEUTRAL START TO RESET). THIS IS SIMILAR TO A FAILURE I HAD IN A 1999 MODEL THAT REQUIRED OVER $3,000 IN REPAIRS TO REPLACE A FAILED ABS PUMP. LAND ROVER INSISTS THAT THERE IS NO FAULT CODE LEFT ON THE OBC AFTER THESE EVENTS, BUT ALL INDICATIONS POINT TO A SYSTEMIC AND ON-GOING PROBLEM WITH THE SERIES OF ABS PUMPS USED OVER THE YEARS. THIS SEEMS TO BE AN IMPORTANT SAFETY SYSTEM IN THE VEHICLE, BUT LR SEEMS TO HAVE NO INTEREST IN ADDRESSING IT. *TR

FAILURE OF ANTILOCK SERVICE BRAKES. DEFECT FIRST IDENTIFIED IN MARCH 2005, WHEN HDC,ABS,TC AND RED BRAKE LIGHT CAME ON. VEHICLE TAKEN TO LAND ROVER OF WOOD BRIDGE WHERE THEY DIAGNOSED A LOOSE CONNECTOR. THESE LIGHTS CAME ON INTERMITTENTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT WENT OUT ON THEIR OWN USUALLY. IN LATE 2008 THE LIGHTS CAME BACK ON AND STAYED ON. CAR TAKEN BACK TO LR IN DEC. 17, 2008 WITH 38805 MILES. FAILURE OF THE ABS MODULATOR WAS DIAGNOSED, AND WARRANTY COVERAGE WAS DENIED, DESPITE WHAT WAS A FAILURE TO DIAGNOSE AND CORRECT THE PROBLEM IN 2005. REPAIR WAS TO BE $3000 PLUS LABOR. I SUBSEQUENTLY LEARNED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN RECALLS ISSUED FOR THIS PROBLEM AND IT APPEARS THE MY VIN NUMBER FALLS WITHIN THE RANGE. HOWEVER LR REFUSES TO COVER THIS REPAIR. I HAVE MADE 2 ATTEMPTS WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE TO HAVE LR REPAIR THIS DEFECT UNDER WARRANTY COVERAGE WITHOUT SUCCESS. I HAVE ALSO NOTED THAT THERE ARE OTHER SIMILAR COMPLAINTS FOR THE SAME PROBLEM AND LR CONTINUES TO AVOID THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE SAFE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. *TR

I AM THE OWNER OF A 2004 LANDROVER DISCOVERY WITH APPROXIMATELY 60,000 MILES ON IT. I HAVE RECENTLY HAD INTERMITTENT FAILURE OF THE ABS MODULATOR ON MY VEHICLE. THE ABS MODULATOR CONTROLS THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM, THE HILL DESCENT CONTROL AND THE TRACTION CONTROL. WHEN THE ABS MODULATOR FAILS, THOSE SYSTEMS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE. WHILE TURNING OFF THE VEHICLE AND RESTARTING THE VEHICLE WILL RESET THE SYSTEM, THE ABS MODULATOR FREQUENTLY OCCURS WHILE THE VEHICLE IS MOVING. THERE IS NO WARNING FOR THE FAILURE, NOR IS THERE ANY PATTERN FOR THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS IN THE DEALER SERVICE CENTER FOR THIS PROBLEM LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK AND THE DIAGNOSIS WAS FOR A REPLACEMENT OF THE ABS MODULATOR. THE ABS MODULATOR IS A $2,800.00 PART, WITH THE TOTAL COST, INCLUDING LABOR RESULTING IN A BILL FOR $3,500.00 TO REPAIR THIS SAFETY ISSUE. MY FAMILY BUDGET DOES NOT PRESENTLY ALLOW ME TO MAKE THIS REPAIR. IN DEALING THE SERVICE CENTER, I WAS INFORMED THAT LANDROVER IS AWARE OF THE FAILURE OF THE ABS MODULATOR AND HAS ISSUED AT LEAST 2 TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETINS FOR A LESS COSTLY REPAIR OF SAME. HOWEVER, I WAS INFORMED THAT THE SUCCESS RATE FOR THOSE LESS COSTLY REPAIRS WAS EXCEEDINGLY LOW. IN CONDUCTING ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON THIS TOPIC, I FOUND THAT THIS ISSUE AFFECTS ALL LANDROVER DISCOVERY'S PRODUCED FROM 1999-2004, SOME LANDROVER RANGE ROVER MODELS AND SOME OTHER LANDROVER MODELS. LANDROVER REFUSES TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND REFUSES TO MAKE THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO MAKE THIS IMPORTANT SAFETY COMPONENTS OF THEIR VEHICLES RELIABLE. IT WOULD SEEM THE NHTSA IS IDEALLY SUITED TO MAKE THIS COMPANY ADDRESS SAFETY DEFECTS IN THEIR VEHICLES. PLEASE CONTACT ME SHOULD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BE NECESSARY. *TR

TL* - THE CONTACT HAS A 2004 LANDROVER DISCOVERY SE7. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE BRAKES ROTORS WERE WORN OUT COMPLETELY. HE TOOK HIS VEHICLE TO THE DEALER BEFORE THE WARRANTY RAN OUT COMPLAINING THAT THE BREAKS SQUEAKED EXCESSIVELY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE DEALER KNEW THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM, BUT HE KEPT PUTTING HIM OFF UNTIL THE 50,000 MILE WARRANTY EXPIRED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE THE FRONT AND REAR ROTORS REPLACED BY THE DEALER. VEHICLE BEFORE THE WARRANTY RAN OUT, AND THE DEALER KEPT MAKING EXCUSES UNTIL THE WARRANTY RAN OUT. THE BRAKES WERE SQUEAKING EXCESSIVELY, BUT THEY TOLD THE CONTACT THAT THEY WOULD REPAIR THE VEHICLE AT CERTAIN INTERVALS, AND THE DEALER WAITED UNTIL THE 50 THOUSAND MILE WARRANTY RAN OUT. WARRANTY WAS OVER AND WAS NOW CHARGING THE CONTACT, WHO KNEW THE BRAKES AND MOTORS SHOULD HOLD UP FOR MORE THAN 3 YEARS. FLUID LEAKING UNDER THE VEHICLE NEEDED PADS AND ROTORS FRONT AND REAR. *AK

MY 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY HAS HAD MULTIPLE PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS-BRAKING SYSTEM. THE VEHICLE BRAKES WHEN HITTING A BUMP. IT APPEARS LAND ROVER MODELS HAVE BEEN RECALLED FOR THE SAME PROBLEM IN THE PAST. PLEASE REFER TO NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 04V005000. THE VEHICLE IS A HAZARD TO ME, MY FAMILY, AND OTHER VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER AS I'M CONCERNED WITH EVERYON'ES WELL-BEING, ESPECIALLY MINE. THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE. *NM

WHILE DRIVING AT 20 MPH AND TURNING TO THE LEFT CONSUMER APPLIED THE BRAKES AND PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE FLOOR . THERE WERE NO BRAKES . VEHICLE CRASHED INTO A CONCRETE WALL. DEALER WAS NOTIFIED. *AK