NHTSA Owner Complaint Log
This page lists owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA for the 2016 Tesla Model S. Complaints are unverified consumer reports submitted to NHTSA and do not by themselves prove a defect or defect rate.
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COMPLAINANT, A PHYSICIAN, HAD TAKEN DELIVERY OF A 2016 TESLA MODEL S ON DECEMBER 22, 2016. THE FOLLOWING DAY, SHE PULLED INTO HER DRIVEWAY AT HOME AND BROUGHT THE VEHICLE TO A STOP. WITH HER FOOT STILL ON THE BRAKE, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY ACCELERATED ON ITS OWN FROM A STOPPED POSITION TO SPEEDS OF BETWEEN 40-60 MPH. THE VEHICLE PLOWED THROUGH THE BRICKS OF HER DRIVEWAY, THROUGH SHRUBS SEPARATING HER PROPERTY FROM HER NEIGHBOR, WENT THROUGH AND ACROSS THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD AND ONTO AND ADJOINING STREET, WHERE IT COLLIDED WITH A TRUCK.
LEFT WHEEL FELL OFF FROM WHAT APPEARS TO BE A BROKEN BOLT CONTROLLING LOWER CONTROL ARM. THE CAR WAS BACKING INTO A DRIVEWAY AT LOW SPEEDS WITH A SUDDEN THUD. THE LEFT FRONT WAS RESTING ON THE TIRE WITH THE TIRE TURNED AT 90 DEGREES. THE LOWER CONTROL ARM WAS NO LONGER ATTACHED WITH THE BOLT BROKEN. SEE PICTURES.
TAKATA RECALL. A SERIOUS INCIDENT HAPPENED TO MY TESLA MODEL S IN DECEMBER 16, 2016 WHEN I APPLIED THE BRAKE PEDAL VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP AT PARKING SPOT. THE VEHICLE KEPT RUNNING OVER A CONCRETE BARRIER AND HIT A WALL WHICH RESULTED IN A SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE. I CALLED TESLA MOTOR CUSTOMER SUPPORT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE INCIDENT AND TOLD THEM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. PICTURES OF THE CRASH ARE UPLOADED BELOW. REPAIRING THE VEHICLE DAMAGES COSTED $11,717.85 AND OVER 2 MONTHS TO FIXED PLUS EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH CAR RENTAL AND TOWING THAT BESIDE THE INCONVENIENCE I WENT THROUGH. AFTER RECEIVING A RECALL LETTER REGARDING THE THE BRAKE CLAPPERS ISSUE LAST MONTH I SENT AN EMAIL TO TESLA AND I WAS TOLD TO COME TO TESLA SERVICE ON TUESDAY 06/20/2017 TO CHECK THE SITUATION.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA SUSPENSION WEAKNESS. HERE ARE 3 MORE EXAMPLES OF BACK WHEELS THAT HAVE SKEWED OVER WITHOUT HAVING BEEN IN ANY COLLISION. THERE IS A DISCUSSION THREAD ON THE NORWEGIAN FORUM ELBILFORUM.NO GOOGLE - SKREVET AV EMNE: BRUKKET BAKAKSEL QUOTE: TODAY BROKE THE REAR AXLE! POUR INTO THE INCIDENT THAT IT HAPPENED ON THE HIGHWAY TO THE AIRPORT BUT JUST DOWN THE STREET WHEN I WAS ON MY WAY HOME. JADE ME BACK. BUT - BROKEN AXLE, THEN? AND ALTHOUGH P85 + IS A ROCKET I'M ACTUALLY A MODERATE MIDDLE-AGED-PLUS DRIVER WHO HAS COVERED AKSELRASJINSBEHOV. WONDER IF THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED BROKEN AXLE SPEED? HAVE TRIED TO FIND SOMETHING ON THE THEME OF THE FORUM BUT DID NOT FOLLOW UP SOMETHING. IS THERE AN EXHAUSTED TOPIC SO SORRY I POST.. I HAVE ATTACHED 4 PHOTOS OF CARS WITH BROKEN AXLES THAT WERE POSTED ON THE NORWEGIAN FORUM. THIS IS A HIGHLY DANGEROUS SITUATION BUT NO WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED TO OWNERS AND THE FORUM POSTERS ARE ABUSING ANY OWNERS THAT DARE TO POST COMPLAINTS. PLEASE TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION. *TR
HERE IS A PRESS REPORT OF A TESLA CRASH IN THE NETHERLANDS. HTTPS://TRANSLATE.GOOGLE.COM.AU/TRANSLATE?SL=AUTO&TL=EN&JS=Y&PREV=_T&HL=EN&IE=UTF-8&U=HTTP%3A%2F%2FWWW.REGIO15.NL%2FNIEUWS%2FLIJST-WEERGAVE%2F32-ONGEVALLEN%2F25574-TWEE-GEWONDEN-BIJ-ONGEVAL-OP-DE-ZUIDWEG&EDIT-TEXT=&ACT=URL THE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW THAT THE TREAD ON THE REAR TIRE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY WORN AWAY BEFORE THE SUSPENSION SNAPPED OFF. THE WHEEL IS GOUGED IN HALF. PEOPLE WERE INJURED IN THE CRASH WHICH WAS UNDOUBTEDLY CAUSED BY THIS SUSPENSION FAILURE. PLEASE LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH AND DEMAND A RECALL OF THIS DANGEROUS VEHICLE.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT THIS VIDEO HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=V_CLFTJZJ2Y SHOWS AN OWNER DRIVING ON AUTOPILOT WITH HIS ARMS CROSSED OVER HIS CHEST. ALSO TEXTING ON HIS PHONE AND FIDDLING WITH THE DISPLAY SCREEN OF THE CAR. ALSO USING AUTOPILOT ON NARROW UNDIVIDED ROADS. HE COULD HAVE KILLED HIMSELF AND OTHERROAD USERS AT ANY INSTANT. TESLA OWNERS HAVE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS SAFE AND THE WARNINGS ARE JUST THERE FOR LEGAL REASONS. MANY OFFICIAL TESLA VIDEOS SHOW THE CAR IN HANDS FREE OPERATION. THIS IS A DANGEROUS EXPERIMENT. PLEASE HALT IT BEFORE MORE PEOPLE DIE.
HERE IS ANOTHER CASE OF A TESLA WITH A BROKEN SUSPENSION. THIS INFORMATION IS TAKEN FROM A TESLA OWNERS FORUM: HTTPS://WWW.REDDIT.COM/R/TESLAMOTORS/COMMENTS/63DTWS/TESLA_MODEL_X_SUSPENSION_QUALITY_ISSUE_PASSENGER/?SORT=NEW TIMOTHYM96 2 POINTS 1 DAY AGO THIS HAS ALSO EXACTLY HAPPENED TO ME IN MY P90D LAST DECEMBER. I DID HIT A POTHOLE ON THE CURVE GOING INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AT ABOUT 10MPH. ONCE I GOT IN THE GARAGE, I TURNED THE WHEEL TO MAKE A BACKIN INTO A SPOT AND BAM. WHEEL FELL RIGHT OFF. PICTURES: FIRST SECOND. TESLA WOULD NOT REPAIR IT, AND BODY SHOP IN OHIO (SUBURBAN COLLISION, TERRIBLE JOB THEY DID BY THE WAY) "REPAIRED" IT FOR $15,000. I WASN'T HAPPY. THE OWNER HAS POSTED PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE FAILED PARTS AND I HAVE ATTACHED THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS BELOW. PLEASE INVESTIGATE. THANK YOU. CONCERNED CITIZEN.
HERE IS A TESLA IN THE JUNKYARD. HTTPS://WWW.COPART.COM/LOT/35774366/PHOTOS?RESULTINDEX=8&TOTALRECORDS=20&BACKTO=%2FLOTSEARCHRESULTS%2F%3FFREE%3DTRUE&QUERY=TESLA&QUERY=TESLA&DISPLAYSTR=SEARCH%20RESULTS&VIEWEDLOT=35774366 IT HAS BEEN IN A SERIOUS CRASH. THE CAR SHOWS THE SIGNS OF COLLAPSED SUSPENSION THAT HAS CAUSED ALL WHEELS TO BE JAMMED UP IN THE WHEEL WELLS. THE FRONT RH WHEEL ASSEMBLY HAS SNAPPED OFF COMPLETELY AND THE WHEEL/TIRE DAMAGE SUGGEST THAT THE COLLAPSE OCCURED WHILST THE CAR WAS STILL DRIVING FORWARD PRIOR TO IMPACT. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS AND ALSO THE MANY SIMILAR INCIDENTS. PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT THE OWNER JUST A CONCERNED CITIZEN. DATE IS AN APPROXIMATION. INJURIES REPORTED ARE AN ESTIMATION BASED ON THE SEVERITY OF THE CRASH. *TR
HERE IS ANOTHER TESLA IN THE JUNKYARD. HTTPS://WWW.COPART.COM/LOT/33597246/PHOTOS?RESULTINDEX=10&TOTALRECORDS=23&BACKTO=%2FLOTSEARCHRESULTS%2F%3FFREE%3DTRUE&QUERY=TESLA&QUERY=TESLA&DISPLAYSTR=SEARCH%20RESULTS&VIEWEDLOT=33597246 PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW THAT THE FRONT SUPENSION HAS FALLEN APART AND THE WHEEL AND TIRE HAVE BEEN DESTROYED WHILST THE CAR WAS STILL IN MOTION. THERE IS NO COLLISION DAMAGE THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE FAILURE. THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 100 SIMILAR FAILURES. NO OTHER CAR ON THE ROAD HAS SUCH A HIGH RATE OF SUSPENSION FAILURES AND WHEELS TORN OFF. OWNERS HAVE REPORTED SUSPENSION FAILURES EVEN UNDER GENTLE DRIVING CONDITIONS. IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHEN THE OWNER BRAKES AND SWERVES THE SUSPENSION IS EXTREMELY LIKELY TO SNAP OFF. THE SUSPENSION COMPNENTS ARE TOO WEAK AND HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED UNDER CONDITIONS SIMILAR TO WHAT CAN OCCUR ON THE HIGHWAY OR AT AN INTERESECTION WHEN EMERGENCY BRAKING IS APPLIED. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS.
HERE IS A REPORT OF A TESLA CRASH IN CHINA THAT INJURED 2 PEOPLE. HTTPS://TRANSLATE.GOOGLE.COM.AU/TRANSLATE?SL=AUTO&TL=EN&JS=Y&PREV=_T&HL=EN&IE=UTF-8&U=HTTP%3A%2F%2FHK.APPLE.NEXTMEDIA.COM%2FNEWS%2FART%2F20160621%2F19662689&EDIT-TEXT=&ACT=URL THE CAR SUFFERED UNINTENDED ACCELERATION AND THEN THE WHEELS FELL OFF. THAT IS A BIT OF A WORRY, TO SAY THE VERY LEAST. PLEASE ISSUE A RECALL.
HERE IS A TESLA MODEL S JUST A FEW MONTHS OLD AND ALREADY IN THE SALVAGE YARD. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=23505090&ROWID=4&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS THERE IS NO CRASH DAMAGE, NO AIRBAGS HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED. THE ENTIRE REAR SUSPENSION OF THE CAR HAS SIMPLY SNAPPED OFF. THE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS ARE MUCH TOO FRAGILE FOR A CAR OF THIS WEIGHT AND POWER. IT IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS THAT AFTER MORE THAN 100 CARS HAVE HAD SUSPENSION FAILURES THERE HAS NOT BEEN A RECALL. PLEASE ORDER A RECALL IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU. *TR
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO: HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=WYRWNXZRNAI THE DRIVER STARTS OFF CAUTIOUSLY KEEPING HIS HANDS NEAR THE WHEEL. BY ABOUT 7 MINUTES INTO THE VIDEO HE HAS BECOME SO TRUSTING IN THE AUTOPILOT THAT HE DRIVES PAST ONCOMING TRAFFIC IN A ROAD TUNNEL COMPLETELY HANDS FREE. THERE IS NOWHERE TO ESCAPE IF THE CAR TAKES A SUDDEN LEAP TO THE LEFT. THIS IS THE REALITY OF HOW DRIVERS ARE PUTTING OTHER ROAD USERS LIVES IN DANGER. PLEASE STOP THIS RECKLESS EXPERIMENTAION.
HERE IS A DISCUSSION THREAD IN WHICH AN OWNER COMPLAINS OF UNINTENDED ACCELERATION CAUSING A CRASH. HTTPS://WEBCACHE.GOOGLEUSERCONTENT.COM/SEARCH?Q=CACHE:L1PLIGGJRGQJ:HTTPS://FORUMS.TESLA.COM/SV_SE/NODE/75376+&CD=1&HL=EN&CT=CLNK&GL=AU THE POSTER SEEMS GENUINE BUT WAS IMMEDIATELY ATTACKED BY TESLA DEFENDERS AND ACCUSED OF DRIVING WHILST FEMALE. THE THREAD HAS BEEN TAKEN PRIVATE AND/OR DELETED BUT I HAVE ARCHIVED IT. SAMPLE: SUDDEN ACCELERATION SUBMITTED BY REGINALHA ON DECEMBER 4, 2016 I'M STILL SHAKING. I LOVED MY CAR UNTIL TODAY. I WAS GOING VERY SLOW INTO A PARKING SPACE WITH MY FOOT ON THE BRAKE AND THE CAR ACCELERATED REALLY FAST AND INTO ANOTHER CAR. I PUSHED ON THE BRAKE SO HARD AND MY FOOT WAS STILL ON THE BRAKE WHEN THE CAR STOPPED (YES, I LOOKED). I THOUGHT THERE WAS INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM ON THIS FORUM BUT I CAN'T FIND IT. I'VE REPORTED IT TO TESLA. DAMAGE TO BOTH CARS ASIDE, I'M NOW AFRAID OF MY CAR! CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE FORUM TO READ ABOUT OTHER'S EXPERIENCES? THANK YOU. *********************** SBMD | DECEMBER 4, 2016 BTW, PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO POST FALSE REPORTS ON THIS IN THE PAST, AND NOT JUST WITH TESLA. I'M GIVING YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. YOU CAN CONSIDER MAKING THIS A PRIVATE POST, WHICH WILL DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU ARE A BONA FIDE OWNER AND NOT A PERSON SIMPLY TRYING TO POST FALSELY HERE. ******************* LILBEAN | DECEMBER 4, 2016 IS ANYONE KEEPING TRACK OF THESE ACCELERATIONS? WEREN'T TWO OF THEM IN FRONT OF NAIL SALONS? ************ SILVERP85PLUS | DECEMBER 4, 2016 BEANMEISTER, THERE WAS A GYM TOO LILBEAN | DECEMBER 4, 2016 ALL WOMEN DRIVERS RIGHT? JUST SAYIN... THE GYM...I MEAN REALLY, PEOPLE THAT ANXIOUS TO GO THERE IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE TESLA HAS A DEFECT CAUSING UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. PLEASE INVESTIGATE. *TR
HERE IS A REPORT OF A CRASH IN GERMANY. HTTP://BNN.DE/LOKALES/BRUCHSAL/TESLA-SCHLAEGT-IN-SPERRWAND-EIN THE FRONT TIRE IS PEELED OFF THE RIM. THAT COULD ONLY HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE THE COLLISION AND IS ALMOST CERTAINLY CAUSED BY FAILURE OF THE SUSPENSION. IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE WHEEL TO HAVE TURNED A FULL REVOLUTION AND PEELED OFF THE TIRE AFTER THE COLLISION. THE DRIVER WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED. PLEASE TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. THE FOLLOWING VIDEO HAS BEEN RELEASED BY TESLA: HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=PUW_DMAQ264 IT SHOWS THE OPERATOR USING THE AUTOPILOT IN UNSUITABLE LOCATIONS AND IN VIOLATION OF ROAD SAFETY LAWS. THIS VIDEO IS NOW ALL OVER THE WEB WITH DESCRIPTIONS SUCH AS AUTONOMOUS AND SELF DRIVING. ALONG WITH THE CLAIMS BY ELON MUSK THAT AUTOPILOT IS SAFER THAN A HUMAN DRIVER THIS IS ENCOURAGING RECKLESS DANGEROUS EXPERIMANTATION ON THE ROADS AND PUTTING LIVES AT RISK. USERS ARE ALREADY USING THIS VIDEO TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN USE OF THE AUTOPILOT ON UNDIVIDED ROADS AND WITH BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE VIDEO GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS IS PERFECTLY OK. PLEASE HALT THIS DANGEROUS EXPERIMENT BEFORE MORE LIVES ARE LOST.
THE TESLA AUTOPILOT IS NOT ONLY A FEATURE THAT DOES NOT WORK, IT IS SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS. THE NEW VERSION 8 SOFTWARE IS ACTUALLY MORE DANGEROUS THAN VERSION 7. THE CAR REGULARLY STEERS OUT OF ITS LANE AND DOES NOT DETECT CARS TO EITHER SIDE THAT ARE LESS THAN 2 CAR LENGTHS IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE. THE SAME DEFECT APPLIES TO CARS ON ITS REAR WINGS. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE CARS HAVE EITHER CUT IN FRONT OF MY VEHICLE OR HAVE COME VERY CLOSE TO THE SIDE OF THE VEHICLE WITHOUT THE CAR ADJUSTING OR BRAKING AT ALL. I HAVE GIVEN THE FEATURE MANY OPPORTUNITIES (>100) AND CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN THAT IT WOULD HAVE CAUSED AN ACCIDENT ON A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF OCCASIONS, IF I HAD NOT INTERVENED IN TIME. THE EMERGENCY BRAKING FEATURE IS ALSO INEFFECTIVE, AND ONLY WORKS IN VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES. I CAN COMPARE THIS TO THE AUDI SYSTEM, WHICH IS EXCELLENT AND FULLY FUNCTIONAL. THE ISSUES ARE HARDWARE RELATED WHICH TESLA HAVE JUST UNDERSTOOD, ANNOUNCING THAT FUTURE CARS WILL HAVE HARDWARE THAT WORKS. EXISTING VEHICLES WILL ONLY GET SOFTWARE UPGRADES THAT WILL NOT CORRECT THE ISSUES. I HAVE VIDEOS THAT SHOW CARS ARE NOT DETECTED, SO CAN PROVE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX WITH SOFTWARE. THIS MUST BE CONSIDERED A RECALL ON THE VEHICLE SO THAT THE FEATURE CAN BE CORRECTED AND THE SAFETY IMPROVED TO ACCEPTABLE LEVELS. I HAVE OWNED THE VEHICLE SINCE AUGUST, 2016 AND THE ISSUES I HAVE DESCRIBED HAVE OCCURRED BETWEEN AUGUST AND NOVEMBER., 2016. I AM FILING THIS COMPLAINT NOW AS THE SYSTEM IS LABELED 'BETA' SO I WAS AWARE THAT IMPROVEMENTS WERE NEEDED. THIS WEEK TESLA ANNOUNCED THAT ALL NEW VEHICLES WILL HAVE HARDWARE THAT ADDRESSES THE PROBLEMS, BUT THAT THIS WILL NOT BE REPLACED ON EXISTING VEHICLES.
THIS IS HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THE AUTOPILOT: HTTPS://FORUMS.TESLA.COM/FORUM/FORUMS/UNHAPPY-V8-REDUCED-AUTOPILOT-CAPABILITIES UNHAPPY WITH V.8 REDUCED AUTOPILOT CAPABILITIES SUBMITTED BY ADAM.SMITH ON NOVEMBER 14, 2016 I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVE DONE IT BUT BY DUMBING DOWN AUTOPILOT AND REDUCING ITS CAPABILITIES YOU MIGHT JUST AS WELL BUY A CAR YOU HAVE TO DRIVE YOURSELF FOR FAR LESS MONEY! @ADAM.SMITH - THERE IS A SOLUTION. 14 OUNCES OF WEIGHT ON THE LEFT OR RIGHT SIDE OF THE STEERING WHEEL WILL ELIMINATE THE NAG ENTIRELY. YOU CAN DO THIS ANY NUMBER OF WAYS. I EXPERIMENTED WITH FISHING WEIGHTS AND A VELCRO WRAP TO DETERMINE THAT 14 OUNCES DOES THE TRICK,12 OUNCES MOSTLY CLEARS THE NAG, BUT 14 KILLS IT ENTIRELY. THE WEIGHT MUST BE PLACED ON THE SPOKE AT THE OUTER END, NEAR THE RIM. I THEN PROGRESSED TO USING 14 OUNCES OF STICK-ON WHEEL WEIGHTS. HOWEVER, THEY ARE BIGGER THAN NECESSARY AND HAVE ISSUES STICKING ON THE BACK OF THE STEERING WHEEL. MY NEXT EXPERIMENTAL SOLUTION WAS TO CUT TWO LAYERS OF 1/8" THICK SHEET LEAD TO FIT TIGHTLY ON THE BACK OF THE STEERING WHEEL SPOKE, WRAPPED SLIGHTLY TO CATCH THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THE SPOKE. IT IS FINISHED WITH PLASTI-DIP SO THE LEAD DOESN'T SPOIL ANYTHING. THE WEIGHT IS EASILY REMOVED WHEN NOT IN USE. PRODUCTS FOR SWITCHING OFF THE NAG HERE: HTTPS://WWW.AMAZON.COM/GP/PRODUCT/B00IS5EEZ6/REF=OH_AUI_DETAILPAGE_O03_S... HTTPS://WWW.AMAZON.COM/PERFORMIX-11203-MULTI-PURPOSE-COATING-AEROSOL/DP/... PLEASE STOP THIS MADNESS.
UPDATE TO THE INDIANAPOLIS CRASH THAT KILLED TWO PEOPLE. THIS REPORT CLAIMS THAT BOTH OCCUPANTS WERE INTOXICATED. HTTP://WWW.CBSNEWS.COM/NEWS/TESLA-DRIVER-DOUBLE-FATAL-CRASH-INTOXICATED-INDIANAPOLIS-POLICE/ HOWEVER, THIS OTHER REPORT SUGGESTS THAT TESTS ON BADLY BURNED VICTIMS MAY BE UNRELIABLE. HTTP://KILLINGKILLERS.BLOGSPOT.COM.AU/P/BLOOD-ALCOHOL-CONTENT-FFECT.HTML NOT WITHSTANDING THESE REPORTS THE PHOTOGRAPHS PUBLISHED HERE HTTP://WWW.INDYSTAR.COM/STORY/NEWS/CRIME/2017/02/08/TESLA-MODEL-S-CRASH-INVESTIGATION-DRUNKEN-DRIVING-INDIANAPOLIS/97597708/ SHOW THAT THE TESLA HAS COMPLETELY DISINTEGRATED AND THAT ALL OF THE WHEELS HAVE SNAPPED OFF WITH SOME OF THE WHEELS SHOWING SIGNS OF DAMAGE WHILST ROTATING. BEARING IN MIND THE MANY REPORTS OF FAILED TESLA SUSPENSIONS AND PROBLEMS WITH SPEED CONTROL IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MECHANICAL FAILURE PAID A CONTRIBUTING PART. THE ALMOST COMPLETE DISINTEGRATION OF THE CAR IS IN STARK CONTRAST TO THE CLAIMS MADE BY TESLA THAT IT IS THE SAFEST CAR IN THE WORLD. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THE FACT THAT THE OCCUPANTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN IMPAIRED BY ALCOHOL PRECLUDE AN INVESTIGATION INTO POSSIBLE DEFECTS IN THE TESLA THAT MAY HAVE PLAYED A PART IN THIS CRASH.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. THIS REPORT HAS JUST BEEN POSTED ON THE TMC FORUM. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/AUTOPILOT-CRASH-TODAY-TESLA-RESPONSE-LESS-THAN-STELLAR.80594/ I I TOOK MY FRIEND TO A LOCAL TESLA STORE AND WE WENT FOR A DRIVE. AP WAS ENGAGED. AS WE WENT UP A HILL, THE CAR WAS NOT SLOWING DOWN APPROACHING A RED LIGHT AT 50 MPH. THE SALESPERSON SUGGESTED THAT MY FRIEND NOT BRAKE, LETTING THE SYSTEM DO THE WORK. IT DIDN'T. THE CAR IN FRONT OF US HAD COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. THE SALESPERSON THEN SAID, "BRAKE!". FULL BRAKING DIDN'T STOP THE CAR IN TIME AND WE REAR-ENDED THE CAR IN FRONT OF US HARD. ALL AIRBAGS DEPLOYED. THE CAR WAS TOTALED. I MENTION THIS FOR THE OBVIOUS REASON THAT AP ISN'T AUTONOMOUS AND IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE NEW DRIVERS USE THIS SYSTEM IN VERY RESTRICTED CIRCUMSTANCES BEFORE ACTIVATING IT IN A BUSY URBAN AREA. THE SALESPERSON WAS UNDERSTANDING AND APOLOGETIC. WHEN I CALLED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CANCELLED, THEY SAID THEY WERE AWARE OF MY SALESPERSON'S NOTES IN THE SYSTEM, BUT DIDN'T MENTION IT UNTIL I ASKED AND ONLY AFTER ASKING MY WHY I CANCELED. THEY PROMISED TO SEND ME AN EMAIL CONFIRMATION OF THE CANCELLATION. IT DIDN'T ARRIVE. THIS EVENING I RECEIVED A CALL FROM TESLA. THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF I WANTED TO CANCEL(!). THE PERSON WAS TOTALLY UNINTERESTED IN THE CRASH, EVEN AFTER I ASKED IF SHE KNEW ABOUT IT (FROM THE SYSTEM NOTES). TOTALLY FLAT. THEY SENT ME A CANCELLATION EMAIL, BUT DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT THE DEPOSIT WOULD BE REFUNDED. THIS ISN'T COOL AND I CANNOT BELIEVE A COMPANY WITH THIS MUCH POSITIVE P.R. WOULDN'T HAVE MOVED THIS WAY UP THE LADDER IMMEDIATELY TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE WHO'D ALREADY ORDERED A CAR AND WAS INTRODUCING A POTENTIAL BUYER WAS TAKEN CARE OF. THIS CRASH COULD EASILY HAVE RESULTED IN DEATH OR INJURY. PLEASE TAKE ACTION TO STOP THIS DANGEROUS EXPERIMENT.
THERE HAS BEEN A FATAL TESLA CRASH IN INDIANA. CRASH SITE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW THAT THE REAR WHEEL HAS SKEWED OVER IN THE WHEEL WELL BUT THERE IS NO DAMAGE TO THE REAR OF THE CAR WHICH COULD HAVE CAUSE THAT TO HAPPEN. THE CAR WAS REPAIRED BY TESLA A FEW MONTHS AGO AFTER IT SUFFERED UNDERCARRIAGE DAMAGE AFTER HITTING A POTHOLE THERE IS A CLEAR PATTERN OF WEAKNESS IN THE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS. IT IS HIGHLY PROBABLE THAT THIS CRASH WAS CAUSED BY A SUSPENSION FAILURE. CRASH SCENE VIDEOS SHOW THE BATTERIES EXPLODING LIKE FIREWORKS. CONTRARY TO TESLA'S CLAIM THAT THE BATTERIES ARE WELL PROTECTED AND WILL ALLOW PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE OCCUPANTS TO ESCAPE IT SHOWS THAT WHEN THE BATTERIES ARE HOT FROM HEAVY USE THEY WILL IGNITE AS SOON AS THE COOLANT ESCAPES. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER URGENTLY BEFORE MORE LIVES ARE LOST.
HERE IS A TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=23919966&ROWID=7&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# THE FRONT LH WHEEL IS SKEWED INWARDS AND OVER AT AN ANGLE WHILST THE RH WHEEL IS POINTING STRAIGHT FORWARD. THIS INDICATES A BROKEN STEERING OR SUSPENSION COMPONENT. THERE IS NO DAMAGE TO THE WHEEL AND TIRE AND NO EVIDENCE OF AN IMPACT HARD ENOUGH TO HAVE BROKEN THE SUSPENSION. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY OTHER CASES WHERE TESLA SUSPENSIONS HAVE SNAPPED. PLEASE INVESTIGATE. PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT THE OWNER, MERELY A CONCERNED CITIZEN. DATE REPORTED IS AN ESTIMATION. EXACT DATE OF INCIDENT IS UNKNOWN TO ME.
HERE IS A TESLA THAT HAS JUST ARRIVED IN THE JUNKYARD. HTTPS://WWW.COPART.COM/LOT/39879946/?RESULTINDEX=11&TOTALRECORDS=16&BACKTO=%2FLOTSEARCHRESULTS%2F%3FFREE%3DTRUE&QUERY=TESLA&QUERY=TESLA&DISPLAYSTR=SEARCH%20RESULTS&VIEWEDLOT=39879946 THE FRONT SUSPENSION HAS SNAPPED OFF IN THE USUAL WAY. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE.
HERE IS A TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=23502765&ROWID=1&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# CAR BUILT MAY 2016 CLOSE EXAMINATION OF THE FRONT RH WHEEL SHOWS THAT THE INSIDE OF THE WHEEL HAS BEEN TORN AND THAT THE TREAD OF THE TIRE HAS BEEN WORN DOWN IN THE CENTER. THIS MEANS THAT THE DAMAGE WAS CAUSED WHILE THE WHEEL WAS STILL ROTATING AND WAS PROBABLY CAUSED BY A BROKEN SUSPENSION COMPONENT. OWNERS ON THE FORUMS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING OF PROBLEMS WITH SUSPENSION PARTS AND THAT TESLA HAS REPLACED PARTS FOR SOME (BUT NOT ALL) OWNERS. SAMPLE:FROM ELBILORUM.NO - ON MY P85 + FROM APRIL 2014 I HEAR THE TYPICAL SOUNDS OF A LINER THAT HAS GONE IN FRONT AXLE. MORE SPEIFIKT FROM THE STABILIZER BAR OR ONE OF THE CONNECTIONS, I HAVE NOT BEEN SUBJECT TO SET. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH LININGS THAT RUNS ON ITS TESLA. RECALLING THAT I + PACKAGE WITH STIFFER BUSHINGS THAT WERE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. - GOT SWITCHED ON BOTH SIDES AHEAD OF A MONTH AGO, "LINK-SWAY BAR FRONT PAIR" WAS SUBSTITUTED. HAD CLUNK OF EVERY DUMP BEFORE SWITCHING SOUNDS JUST FINE AFTER SWITCHING. - SOUNDS LIKE "BAG OF BONES" WHEN I DRIVE OVER SPEED BUMPS, EMBARRASSING. TOOK A TRIP TO TESLA SKYEN, GOT FITTER AND HE HEARD THE HORROR SHOW, - THE NEIGHBORS MUST BEGIN TO WONDER IF WE HAVE A FREAK SHOW GOING. LACKING ONLY KILLER CLOWNS SIGHTINGS SO WE HAVE A NEW EPISODE OF AMERICAN HORROR SHOW. - IT WAS NOTICED DURING SERVICETHAT THE LOWER REAR CONTROL ARMS ON THE FRONT SUSPENSION WERE WORN AND NEED TO BE REPLACED. *THESE SUSPENSION FAILURES ARE CAUSING CRASHES. PLEASE INVESTIGATE *
ANOTHER TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=23505090&ROWID=2&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# NO IMPACT DAMAGE, NO AIRBAGS DEPLOYED BUT THE AIR SUSPENSION HAS COLLAPSED CAUSING ALL WHEELS TO JAM UP IN THE WHEEL WELLS AND THE BACK WHEEL AND SUSPENSION HAS TORN COMPLETELY AWAY. THE TIRE IS PEELED OFF THE RIM AND THE TREAD IS WORN DOWN INDICATING THE CAR WAS STILL DRIVING WHEN THE DAMAGE OCCURRED. PLEASE INVESTIGATE
OWNERS ARE STILL REPORTING EXTREME AND RAPID WEAR OF REAR TIRES ON THE HIDDEN INSIDE EDGE THAT CAN GO UNNOTICED UNTIL THE TIRE BLOWS OUT. HERE IS A THREAD FROM THE ELBILFORUM IN NORWAY ELBILFORUM.NO/FORUM/INDEX.PHP?BOARD=49.0 SAMPLE: A: REAR WORN OUT AFTER 50 DAYS, 4000 KM. REPLY # 480 ON: FRIDAY 17 OCTOBER 2014, IN TIME 5:50 P.M." NOW I SIT IN VERDAL IN NORD-TRNDELAG WITH FLAT REAR TIRE. FAMOUS LIGHT VIBRATIONS IN THE REAR TIRE WHEN I DROVE ON THE E6, AND THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS LITTLE AIR IN THE TIRES AS IT IS 4 DEGREES. IT TURNS OUT THAT ONE REAR TIRE CAN NOT BE RACKING UP THE COMPRESSOR WIFE CAME WITH THE E-MEXICO. I STROKE HER HAND INSIDE COVER TO REVEAL THE "HOLE" IS. IT TURNS OUT THAT I TOUCH THE WIRES ON THE ENTIRE BACK, WHICH MEANS THAT THE TIRE IS COMPLETELY WORN DOWN ON THE INSIDE. THIS IS ONE OF FOUR PS2 TIRES THAT I PUT TWO MONTHS AGO (!) BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL TIRES WERE WORN DOWN (AND THE CAR WAS NEW IN MARCH). HERE IS A LONG TERM OWNER COMPLAINING THAT TESLA IS UNABLE TO FIX THIS DESPITE REPLACING SOME OF THE SUSPENSION ARMS: A: REAR WORN OUT AFTER 50 DAYS, 4000 KM. REPLY # 497 ON: YESTERDAY AT. 3:32 P.M. " HAVE THEM TURN OFF SPISSINGSSTAGENE. HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS FOR TWO YEARS AND DESPITE REPEATED ADJUSTMENTS, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD. HOWEVER, WHEN THE BARS WERE REMOVED AND CHECKED, IT TURNED OUT THAT THEY WERE DESTROYED AND ARE NOT KEPT SETTING. DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE RESULT MTP WEAR BECOMES EVEN, BUT IT IS A FACT THAT EARLY RWD CARS NOT STRUGGLING REAR TIRES _HELT_ EVENLY WHATEVER YOU DO WITH THEM. BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE "GNAWING" AT THE INNERMOST CENTIMETERS. THIS SITUATION IS PUTTING LIVES AT RISK. PLEASE NOTE THAT ALTHOUGH THIS DISCUSSION IS BASED IN NORWAY THIS IS A US MADE CAR THAT IS SOLD ALL OVER THE WORLD.
I PURCHASED THE TESLA MODEL S ON 10/17 WITH 'AUTOPILOT' HARDWARE AND FEATURES I'VE CONSISTENTLY USED AUTOPILOT ON THE HIGHWAY DURING THE FIRST MONTH I'VE HAD THE VEHICLE. THE AUTOPILOT FEATURE USES CAMERAS AND SENSORS TO MAINTAIN SPEED AND LANE AND AVOID COLLISIONS. THIS CAR ALSO FEATURES ANTI-COLLISION FEATURES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO ENGAGE EVEN WHEN AUTOPILOT IS NOT ENGAGED, TO DETECT BOTH AN OBJECT IN FRONT OF THE CAR AND BRAKE, AS WELL AS DETECT OBJECTS ON EITHER SIDE THAT THE CAR MAY BE HEADED TO COLLIDE WITH AND SWERVE AWAY. THIS FEATURES WERE ALL ENABLED AT TIME OF THE ACCIDENT. AT THE TIME OF ACCIDENT, I HAD AUTOPILOT ENGAGED FOR APPROX 10 MINUTES PRIOR TO ACCIDENT. I WAS STILL WATCHING THE ROAD BUT PERIODICALLY LOOKING AT MY PHONE AS WELL. BEFORE THE ACCIDENT I HAD LOOKED DOWN AT MY PHONE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS LONGER THAN A FEW SECONDS, BUT I CAN'T BE CERTAIN. WHEN I LOOKED UP THE SEMI WAS MERGING IN FRONT OF ME. I WOULD GUESS THAT THE SEMI'S TRAILER WAS PERHAPS 3-4 FEET IN MY LINE, AND I WAS MAYBE 50-100 FEET AWAY. SO IT WAS LESS THAN 1 SECOND PRIOR TO IMPACT. IT WAS SO QUICK THERE WAS NO TIME FOR ME TO EVEN HIT THE BRAKE AND THE CAR WAS NOT BRAKING OR SWERVING TO AVOID COLLISION EITHER. ESSENTIALLY, THE AUTO PILOT DROVE ME RIGHT INTO THE LEFT REAR OF A SEMI TRACTOR TRAILER AT 70 MPH AND THE SENSORS/CAMERAS FOR SOME REASON DID NOT DETECT THIS COLLISION. *TR
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 TESLA MODEL S. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE ENTERING THE GARAGE AT THE RESIDENCE, THE VEHICLE INDEPENDENTLY ACCELERATED. THE VEHICLE STRUCK A WALL AND A WATER HEATER. THERE WERE NO INJURIES SUSTAINED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE AIR BAGS FAILED TO DEPLOY. THERE WERE NO WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO LOCAL DEALER TESLA SERVICE CENTER LOCATED AT 68080 PEREZ RD, CATHEDRAL CITY, CA 92234, WHERE THEY WERE UNABLE TO DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE CONTACT STATED ON JANUARY 23,2020, SHE SELECTED THE FEATURE TO AUTOMATIC PARK HER VEHICLE, BUT WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS REVERSING IT IMPACTED ANOTHER VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE HAD NOT BEEN DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED AS OF YET. THE MANUFACTURER HAD BEEN INFORMED OF FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNKNOWN.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. JUST TOUCHING THE STALK CAN MAKE THE CAR GO TO FULL THROTTLE. HTTPS://FORUMS.TESLA.COM/FORUM/FORUMS/NEW-CRUISE-CONTROL-STALK NEW CRUISE CONTROL STALK THE NEW CRUISE CONTROL STALK THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED FOR AUTOPILOT DOES NOT HAVE A WHITE BUTTON ON THE END TO TURN CRUISE CONTROL ON AND OFF. THE "ON" FOR CRUISE CONTROL IS SIMPLY TAPPING THE STALK TOWARD YOU -- WHICH IS ALL TOO EASY TO DO WHEN REACHING FOR THE TURN SIGNAL. IF THE CRUISE CONTROL'S LAST SETTING WAS 70MPH AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE GOING 10MPH IN TRAFFIC, THE CAR LURCHES FORWARD IN AN ATTEMPT TO REACH THE PRESET SPEED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS SCARY AND DANGEROUS. KASNIDER50 | OCTOBER 10, 2016 BLUE85D, I CAN'T TELL IF YOU'RE DISPARAGING MY "OUTRAGE" OR NOT. BUT SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME CAR I HAVE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE A LITTLE LESS JUDGMENTAL IN ANY CASE. MY OWNER'S MANUAL, SAYS THAT THE BUTTON (THAT NO LONGER IS FEATURED) IS/WAS HOW YOU TURN CRUISE CONTROL ON. ONLY IN THE NEWER MODELS WITHOUT A BUTTON TURN ON CRUISE CONTROL BY PULLING THE STALK TOWARD THE DRIVER. THE MANUAL SAYS NOTHING ABOUT CANCELING CRUISE CONTROL WITH THE BUTTON, ONLY BY PUSHING THE STALK AWAY. SO--I CONTINUE TO WISH THAT IT WEREN'T AS EASY AS IT IS TO TELL THE CAR "I WANT TO GO SEVENTY MILES AN HOUR...NOW!" WHEN YOU'RE TOOLING ALONG IN SLOW TRAFFIC AND SIMPLY WANT TO CHANGE LANES. MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS GOING TO DRIVE THIS CAR, SOME NOT VERY OFTEN...SO I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE HARDER TO ENGAGE THE "RETURN TO PRESET SPEED." YOU CAN CALL THAT OUTRAGE, OR YOU CAN CALL IT COMMON SENSE. IT'S ALL THE SAME TO ME. THESE CARS ARE BEING DRIVEN BY PEOPLE OF VARYING ABILITIES AND CAN EVEN BE RENTED FOR A DAY WITHOUT ANY INSTRUCTION ON THE SPECIAL DANGERS PRESENTED BY AUTOPILOT MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE UNLESS THIS RECKLESS EXPERIMENT IS HALTED
BALL JOINT EQUIVALENT FRACTURED WHILE PULLING OUT OF GARAGE. FRONT END FELL, NEARLY BRINGING TIRE INTO CONTACT WITH WHEEL WELL.
THERE ARE MANY TESLAS IN THE WRECKING YARDS WITH BROKEN FRONT SUSPENSIONS. OWNERS ARE COMPLAINING ON THE FORUMS OF VIBRATION PROBLEMS THAT ARE CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE DRIVE SHAFTS. TESLA SEEMS UNABLE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM AND IT MAY BE CREATING A RISK OF SUDDEN FAILURE. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/FRONT-VIBRATION-WHEN-ACCELERATING-ACCELEROMETER-GRAPHS.72268/PAGE-2 SAMPLE: @MMCCORD UNFORTUNATELY REPLACING THE HALF-SHAFTS DID SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT ONLY FOR ONE MONTH. THE VIBRATION CAME BACK. AFTER FOUR ATTEMPTS BY THE SC TO FIX IT THE CAR STILL HAS THE VIBRATION. NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED HIGH SETTING NOW I CAN REPLICATE THE PROBLEM EVERY TIME. IT ALSO EXPLAINS WHY ONLY IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES I GOT THE VIBRATION. MY DRIVEWAY IS A BIT HIGHER THAN THE MAIN ROAD SO I HAVE THE SUSPENSION SET TO HIGH WHEN I ARRIVE HOME. WHEN I USUALLY LEAVE BEFORE HITTING A HIGHER SPEED ROAD THE SUSPENSION WILL STAY TO HIGH. THE MOMENT I PULL INTO A HIGH SPEED ROAD ( > 35 MPH, WHICH IS THE THRESHOLD FOR STANDARD SETTING), EVEN A MILD ACCELERATION WILL CAUSE THE SHUDDER. I HAD THE FOLLOWING WORK DONE: FRONT RIGHT HALFSHAFT - DUAL MOTOR (1030616-00-A) FRONT LEFT HALFSHAFT - DUAL MOTOR (1030615-00-A) FRONT JACKSHAFT ASSEMBLY - DUAL MOTOR (1030632-00-A) SDU RE ALIGNMENT FRONT DRIVE UNIT MOUNTING BUSHES ADJUSTING NONE OF THAT SOLVED THE PROBLEM OR SOLVED IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. MY CONCLUSION IS THAT THE CAR DOESN'T BODE TO WELL WHEN TRANSITIONING FROM HIGH TO STANDARD SETTING WHILE YOU ACCELERATE MILDLY OR STRONGER. I USE IT DAILY AT LEAST TWO LOCATIONS AND NOW IT EXPLAINS WHY I AM GETTING THE SHUDDER AFTER LEAVING IN EXACTLY SAME SPOT. AND YES IT WILL WEAR THE HALF SHAFTS PREMATURELY. ANYONE HAD THIS PROBLEM FIXED FOR GOOD? MY SC SEEMS CLUELESS AND THE WHOLE SITUATION IS EMBARRASSING FOR THEM REALLY. *TR
HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT IS UNSAFE? HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/AUTOPILOT-FAILED-TO-NOTICE-A-BUS-TODAY.78833/ AUTOPILOT FAILED TO NOTICE A BUS TODAY LOCATION:SACRAMENTO, CA STOPPED AT AN INTERSECTION BEHIND A BUS TODAY AT A RED LIGHT. DECIDED TO LOOK FOR SOME NEW MUSIC SO I TURNED AUTOPILOT ON, SEEING AS HOW I COULDN'T SEE THE RED/GREEN LIGHT AND THAT'D TELL ME WHEN TO PAY ATTENTION (CAR STARTS MOVING... DON'T TELL ME YOU GUYS NEVER USE IT FOR THIS, EITHER!). WAS AT A COMPLETE STOP ABOUT TWO CAR LENGTHS FROM THE BUS. ENGAGED AP. CAR IMMEDIATELY LURCHED FORWARD. HIT BRAKES FAST, WHICH FORTUNATELY MY FOOT WAS ALREADY OVER THE PEDAL AS I'D BEEN PREVIOUSLY STOPPED. SAT FOR A SECOND CONFUSED. I'M NOW ABOUT A CAR LENGTH FROM THE BUS. VERIFIED MY AP WAS SET TO 4 CAR LENGTHS. ENGAGED AGAIN. CAR IMMEDIATELY SHOT FORWARD, HIT BRAKES. CAR DISPLAYED THE WARNING THAT AN OBJECT WAS IN FRONT OF ME. I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT EITHER THE CAR WOULD HAVE EMERGENCY BRAKED OR I WOULD HAVE HIT THE BUS HAD I LEFT IT ENGAGED. IT DEFINITELY PULLED FORWARD FULL-POWER LIKE IT DOES IF THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU CHANGES LANES AND THE LANE IS OTHERWISE CLEAR. IT DEFINITELY MADE ME THINK OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO ACCIDENTALLY DROVE INTO BUILDINGS AND SUCH AND THE LITTLE REACTION TIME THEY MUST HAVE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. I'M QUITE AWARE OF HOW CLOSE AP WILL TAKE YOU WHEN STOPPED. THE BEHAVIOR WAS ABNORMAL -- NOT ONLY DID THIS NOT SEEM TO CARE THAT I WAS ALREADY QUITE CLOSE, IT ACCELERATED IMMEDIATELY AND RAPIDLY WHEN ENGAGING AND GAVE NO INDICATION IT WOULD QUIT. TYPICALLY ENGAGING IT WHILE STOPPED OR BEHIND SOMEONE WILL MOVE FORWARD VERY SLIGHTLY IF AT ALL ONCE YOU'RE ALREADY CLOSE.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 TESLA MODEL S. WHILE PARKING, THE VEHICLE INADVERTENTLY ACCELERATED AND CRASHED INTO A FENCE AND A NEIGHBOR'S AIR CONDITIONING UNIT. THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED, BUT THE VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THERE WERE NO INJURIES. THE POLICE ARRIVED AT THE SCENE, BUT THE CONTACT WAS UNAWARE IF A POLICE REPORT WAS FAILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO DALLAS-CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD TESLA (6500 CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD, SUITE 100 (214) 736-0587), BUT NO FAILURES WERE DIAGNOSED. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE FAILURE WAS DUE TO HUMAN ERROR. THE BODY DAMAGE WAS REPAIRED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE FAILURE OCCURRED A SECOND TIME WHILE PARKING IN A HOSPITAL PARKING LOT. THE VEHICLE ACCELERATED WITHOUT WARNING, JUMPED A CURB, AND COLLIDED WITH A METAL POLE, A SMALL TREE, AND AN AMBULANCE. THE HOSPITAL POLICE WAS AT THE SCENE, BUT WAS UNAWARE IF A REPORT WAS FILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO JOHN EAGLE COLLISION CENTER (6125 PEELER ST, DALLAS, TX 75235 (855) 575-6368), BUT NO REPAIRS OR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING WERE COMPLETED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE AND OFFERED NO ASSISTANCE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 5,000. *TT UPDATED 8/6/18*JB
HERE IS ANOTHER BURNED OUT TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD HTTPS://WWW.COPART.COM/LOT/34875876/PHOTOS?RESULTINDEX=14&TOTALRECORDS=21&BACKTO=%2FLOTSEARCHRESULTS%2F%3FFREE%3DTRUE&QUERY=TESLA&QUERY=TESLA&DISPLAYSTR=SEARCH%20RESULTS TESLA CLAIMS THE FIRE PROBLEM HAS BEEN CURED BY THE ADDITION OF A TITANIUM SHIELD. SO WHY ARE THERE SO MANY BURNED OUT TESLAS IN THE JUNKYARDS?
TESLA AUTOPILOT VESION 8 IS STILL PLACING LIVES AT RISK. JUST READ THE OWNERS COMMENTS ON THE FORUMS. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/8-0-LOST-OR-DEGRADED-CAPABILITIES.77927/PAGE-9 [XXX], WEDNESDAY AT 5:10 AM NEW AUTOPILOT IS DEFINITELY MORE DANGEROUS IN 8.0 THAN IT WAS IN 7.1. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CLOSE-CALLS WHERE IF I HAD NOT TAKING OVER, I WOULD HAVE VEERED OFF THE ROAD, INTO ANOTHER VEHICLE, OR SLAMMED INTO THE BACK OF A SLOW-MOVING VEHICLE IN MY LANE IN FRONT OF ME. [XXX], TODAY AT 5:03 AM I WAS DRIVING YESTERDAY WITH AUTOPILOT AT ABOUT 80 MPH APPROACHING STOPPED TRAFFIC (SEPARATION SETTING 7). AS USUAL THE CAR DIDN'T START STOPPING IN TIME AND THEN WHEN IT DID BEGIN TO STOP IT DIDN'T APPLY THE BRAKES HARD ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY STOP IN TIME. EVEN THE COLLISION WARNING WENT OFF JUST AS I BEGAN MANUALLY HITTING THE BRAKES. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PASS THIS INFO TO TESLA BUT THAT SURELY WAS NOT OPTIMAL. AP IS DEFINITELY SMOOTHER IN TERMS OF ACCELERATION AND DECELERATION, BUT I CAN'T USE IT AS I SERIOUSLY FEAR FOR MY LIFE. NOT GOOD. [XXX], TUESDAY AT 5:17 AM WELL - FINALLY UPDATED AND TOOK A 200 MI TRIP. AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO ME BUT FUNCTIONALITY TOOK A COUPLE OF STEPS BACK. RUNNING AP I HAD 3 OCCASIONS WHERE AP SWERVED ANOTHER DIRECTION. I AM CONFIDENT THAT HAD I NOT BEEN HOLDING THE WHEEL THERE WAS GREAT POTENTIAL FOR AN ACCIDENT. SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHEN THE CAR QUICKLY SLOWED DOWN AND CAME BACK UP TO SPEED WITH NOTHING NEARBY. NAVIGATION WAS ALL MESSED UP. HAD ME DOING LOOPS AND CUTBACKS ADDING MANY MILES HAD I BLINDLY FOLLOWED IT. NOT EVEN GOING TO MENTION THE AUDIO AND LACK OF WAYPOINTS, ETC....AND THE NEW FREQUENCY OF THE NAG IS ANNOYING. THE CAR REMAINS AWESOME, BUT THIS STUFF IS GOING TO BITE THEM IN THE [XXX] IF THEY CAN'T GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. PLEASE CAN YOU ENSURE THAT TESLA HAS SOME ADULT SUPERVISION. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6) *TR
HERE IS ANOTHER TESLA MODEL S WHOSE BACK WHEEL HAS SNAPPED OFF. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=23148660&ROWID=5&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# THE BROKEN SUSPENSION LINKS CAN BE CLEARLY SEEN. THE TREAD IS WORN AWAY ON THE TIRE INDICATING THAT THE WHEEL WAS TURNING FOR A LONG WHILE BEFORE THE SUSPENSION BROKE COMPLETELY OFF. THE SUSPENSION APPEARS TO HAVE COLLAPSED ON ALL 4 WHEELS CAUSING THE TIRES TO JAM UP INSIDE THE WHEEL WELLS AND PLACING HIGH STRESSES ON THE SUSPENSION COMPONENTS. THIS SAME FAULT IS BEING SEEN OVER AND OVER ON TESLAS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FITTED WITH BUMP STOPS OR LIMIT STOPS ON THE AIR SUSPENSION. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS SAFETY DEFECT. PLEASE INVESTIGATE.
I RECEIVED THE CAR ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND THE FRONT DASHBOARD CONSOLE THAT IS A SCREEN IN FRONT OF THE WHEEL REBOOTS RANDOMLY WHEN I AM DRIVING..I HAVE TO RE START THE WHOLE SYSTEM EVERYTIME TO GET IT WORKING AND TELL ME THE SPEEDETAILS AND OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION... TESLA SAYS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND CAN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION ON HOW YOU FIX IT. *TR
TESLA HAS CREATED A MONSTER IN THE FORM OF AUTOPILOT. THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM AN OWNER EXPLAINS IT PERFECTLY. -- GREEN1, TODAY AT 4:19 AM NEW MDMGSO47 SAID: ↑ SO YOU CAN PUT THE TOP OF ONE THIGH UNDER THE STEERING WHEEL TO KEEP THE WHEEL FROM TURNING AND YOU ARE GOOD?--- THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY TO WORK THAN USING YOUR HANDS. IF I USE MY HANDS ONE OF 2 THINGS HAPPENS: 1) IT DOESN'T DETECT MY HANDS BECAUSE I'M EITHER GRIPPING THE WHEEL LIGHTLY, OR AM MAKING THE SAME CORRECTIONS THE CAR IS TO STAY IN THE LANE, OR 2) I GRIP THE WHEEL FIRMLY AND STEER AGAINST THE AUTOSTEER AND IT DISENGAGES AUTOSTEER, AND USUALLY SWERVES OUT OF THE CENTRE OF THE LANE. 1) WILL CAUSE ME TO LOSE THE ABILITY TO USE AUTOSTEER AFTER THE NAGS PUT ME IN THE PENALTY BOX 2) IS DANGEROUS, AND WILL CAUSE ME TO LOSE THE ABILITY TO USE AUTOSTEER AFTER I DISENGAGE IT TRYING TO SATISFY THE NAG I CHOSE OPTION 3) DON'T ADD NAGS TO A SYSTEM THAT WORKED PERFECTLY WELL BEFORE THEM, AND WHICH I OWN SO TESLA HAS NO RIGHT TO REMOVE FEATURES FROM.--- HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/RED-HANDS-OF-SHAME.77954/PAGE-2 --- PLEASE BAN THIS EXPERIMENTAL AUTOPILOT BEFORE MORE LIVES ARE LOST.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE AUTOPILOT VERSION 8.0 HERE IS A NEW VIDEO THAT HAS JUST BEEN UPLOADED TO YOUTUBE HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=SC3LURR6LOQ TESLA 8.0 SOFTWARE AUTOPILOT RADAR CHANGE REVIEW THE OWNER HAS JUST DOWNLOADED THE NEW SOFTWARE. HE COMPLAINS THAT HE IS DISAPPOINTED HE NOW MIGHT HAVE TO KEEP HANDS ON THE WHEEL BECAUSE THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING AUTOPILOT? HE TESTS IT OUT ON LOCAL ROADS WITH NO SOLID BARRIER AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC. HE PASSES ONCOMING CARS AND A LINE OF TREES WHILST DRIVING HANDS AND FEET OFF FOR 90% OF THE TIME. HE EXPRESSES A BELIEF THAT THE RADAR NOW MAKES THE SYSTEM SAFER. ELON MUSK HAS STATED THAT THE USE OF RADAR IN VERSION 8.0 MEANS THAT THE FATAL CRASH UNDER A TRUCK WOULD PROBABLY NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE NEW VERSION 8.0. MANY OWNERS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE HANDS FREE FOR 90% OF THE TIME. THIS IS A GIANT STEP BACKWARDS FOR ROAD SAFETY. PLEASE ACT QUICKLY TO PREVENT PEOPLE BEING KILLED.
THIS IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT UPGRADED VERSION 8.0 IT IS CLEAR FROM THE MANY YOUTUBE VIDEOS ALREADY POSTED THAT OWNERS ARE NOW PLACING EVEN MORE TRUST IN THE AUTOPILOT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THE RADAR AND OTHER ENHANCEMENTS MAKE IT SAFER THAN BEFORE. ALSO THE MESSAGE TO HOLD STEERING WHEEL IS STILL BEING IGNORED AND OWNERS ARE OPERATING HANDS FREE FOR MORE THAN 3 MINUTES AT A TIME WHILE FIDDLING WITH THE DISPLAY SCREEN AND TAKING THEIR EYES OFF THE ROADS. I WILL GIVE YOU LINKS TO VIDEOS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSTED AND I AM SURE THAT THERE IS EVEN WORSE BEHAVIOR HAPPENING OFF THE CAMERA. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=ISZ3FSBE_PG OWNER TESTING HOW LONG HE CAN DRIVE HANDS FREE BEFORE AUTOPILOT IS DISABLED HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=G42WDKU11K8 USING AUTOPILOT ON LOCAL ROADS RATHER THAN FREEWAYS WITH A SOLID BARRIER AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC, MUCH OF THE TIME HANDS FREE. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=U7JNHFWZ3EC HANDS FREE, OVERCONFIDENT AND USING AUTOPILOT IN INAPPROPRIATE CIRCUMSTANCES. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=WRM0E5ZO4KQ USING AUTOPILOT ON FREEWAY BUT WITH A LOT OF HANDS FREE TIME AND FIDDLING WITH TOUCH SCREEN. THERE ARE ALSO COMMENTS ON THE VIDEOS THAT THE AUTOPILOT BRAKING IS LEFT UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT AND THAT OWNERS FEAR IT WILL NOT STOP IN TIME. THEN THEY SAY THAT THEY LEARN TO TRUST IT AFTER A WHILE THIS LEAVES LITTLE TIME TO REACT IF THE SYSTEM FAILS. I BELIEVE THAT THE INQUIRY INTO AUTOPILOT SHOULD NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AT THE HUMAN FACTOR. I BELIEVE THAT THIS DECEPTIVELY TITLED AUTOPILOT IS CAUSING DRIVERS TO BEHAVE IN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS WAYS AND THAT THIS WILL CERTAINLY LEAD TO MORE DEATHS.
THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT TO TRY AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE DANGER POSED TO ALL ROAD USERS. HERE IS A FORUM POST DISCUSSING HOW TO AVOID THE NAG. PEDRISCOLL, TODAY AT 2:51 PM GAVIN.BELSON SAID: ↑ I HAVE THIS EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE. I HAVE ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT IT'S LIKE THIS FOR EVERYONE, BUT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER POSTS IN THIS THREAD, MAYBE I'M WRONG. DO OTHERS FIND THAT SIMPLY RESTING THEIR HANDS COMFORTABLY ON THE BOTTOM OF THE WHEEL IS SUFFICIENT TO AVOID THE "HOLD STEERING WHEEL" PROMPT OR TO DISMISS IT WHEN IT APPEARS? HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/7-1-8-0-SEEMS-LIKE-AN-UPDATE-FOR-TESLAS-LEGAL-TEAM-AND-A-NET-LOSS-FOR-CUSTOMERS.77702/PAGE-6 "FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH I'M ALWAYS HOLDING THE WHEEL, I STILL GET THE PROMPT ON EVERY CURVE, AND I HAVE TO "JIGGLE" THE WHEEL TO MAKE IT GO AWAY. I KEEP ONE HAND COMFORTABLY RESTING ON THE BOTTOM OF THE WHEEL AND NEVER GET A NAG. THIS HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE AP WAS ORIGINALLY RELEASED FOR ME. INTERESTING THAT OTHERS HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE" DRIVING WITH ONE HAND LOOSELY GRIPPING THE BOTTOM OF THE STEERING WHEEL IS INTRINSICALLY UNSAFE. COUPLED WITH THE FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY CREATED BY AUTOPILOT, DISTRACTION, AND SLEEPINESS IT MEANS THAT THE REACTION TIME NEED TO REGAIN CONTROL IN AN EMERGENCY IS DANGEROUSLY INCREASED. PLEASE LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF HOW AUTOPILOT IS BEING USED BY OWNERS, IT CANNOT POSSIBLY BE TWICE AS SAFE AS A HUMAN DRIVER AS ELON MUSK HAS CLAIMED.
HERE IS A FORUM POST FROM AN OWNER WHOSE AIR SUSPENSION HAS COLLAPSED (SHORTLY AFTER AN UNRELATED VERY MINOR COLLISION). HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/AIR-SUSPENSION-FAILING-ON-THE-SAME-DAY-SOMEONE-HIT-ME.77914/#POST-1751484 "DOHMER, 25 MINUTES AGO NEW SERVICE ADVISOR SAID THE TWO DAMAGES ARE UNLIKELY RELATED SO THEY WILL FIX THE SUSPENSION PROBLEM UNDER WARRANTY. SEEMS SERVICE IS PRETTY GOOD SO FAR. I'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY BROKE WHEN I PICK UP THE CAR NEXT WEEK" AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH AND FROM THE OWNERS COMMENTS THE CAR IS ALMOST SCRAPING THE GROUND AND THE WHEELS ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE WHEEL WELL LINERS. THE CAR DOES NOT HAVE BUMP STOPS ON THE SUSPENSION AND A SMALL AIR LEAK CAN CAUSE THE CAR TO BOTTOM OUT. FROM LOOKING AT ALL THE SALVAGE WRECKS IT SEEMS THAT THIS FAILURE IS EXTREMELY COMMON AND CAN ALSO LEAD TO BREAKAGE OF OTHER SUSPENSION PARTS WHEN THE WHEEL WELL LINERS FLOG ABOUT INSIDE THE WELL. I AM SURPRISED THAT THIS CAR COULD PASS REGULATORY STANDARDS IF THERE IS NO BUMP STOP TO PREVENT THE SUSPENSION COLLAPSING TO SUCH A LOW LEVEL. PLEASE ASK THE MANUFACTURER WHY THE CAR DOES NOT HAVE THIS SIMPLE SAFETY FEATURE.
HERE IS A VERY DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT IN THE TESLA AUTOPILOT SITUATION. HERE IS A NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT SHOWS HOW TO DEFEAT THE AUTOPILOT NAG AND WARNING BEEPS BY THE USE OF 2 RUBBER BANDS. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=WHHRNHNM1XK THIS VIDEO HAS ALREADY HAD OVER 300 HITS. IT WILL VERY SOON BE COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO ELIMINATE THOSE ANNOYING NAGS. OWNERS ARE NOW FREE TO INDULGE IN WHATEVER RECREATIONAL PLEASURES THEY ENJOY THE MOST. THE ONLY WAY TO CURE THIS KIND OF RECKLESS BEHAVIOR IS TO BAN THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. PLEASE TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
HERE IS A FORUM POST STARTED TODAY. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/90-DEGREE-LEFT-TURN.77349/ THIS SHOWS NOT ONLY THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS UNRELIABLE BUT THAT THAT IT IS STILL BEING USED IN CITY TRAFFIC ON UNDIVIDED ROADS. QUOTE:SIR GUACAMOLAF, YESTERDAY AT 10:22 AM SOMETHING STRANGE HAPPENED WITH AUTOPILOT TODAY (1 YEAR OLD). I WAS USING AP IN AN INSIDE ROAD (CITY), ON A LIGHT BEHIND A UGLIER THAN YETI'S BUTT PORSCHE PANAMERA. LIGHT TURNS GREEN, AND MY CAR, TOTALLY NEGOTIATED A FULL LEFT TURN ACROSS 3 LANES INTO A DIVIDED TWO LANE ROAD, ALL ON IT'S OWN. YEAH I HAD MY HANDS ON THE WHEEL, BUT WOW! NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT BEFORE. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A S/W UPDATE LATELY BTW. AND I'VE DRIVEN ON THIS ROAD NUMEROUS TIMES, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AP HAS DONE THIS. IT WAS PROMISED THAT THE AUTOPILOT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO USE ON DIVIDED ROADS. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED IF THIS SITUATION CONTINUES THEN IT IS A CERTAINTY THAT MORE LIVES WILL BE LOST PLEASE TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION.
THERE HAS BEEN A FATAL CRASH IN THE NETHERLANDS WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY SUSPENSION FAILURE. HTTP://WWW.AD.NL/AMERSFOORT/BRANDWEER-WORSTELT-MET-GECRASHTE-TESLA~A1EC61B0/70382423/ PLEASE SEE ATTACHED PHOTOGRAPH. BACK RH WHEEL SKEWED OVER AT EXTREME ANGLE. THAT PART OF THE CAR HAS NOT BEEN DAMAGED BY THE CRASH. PLEASE INVESTIGATE.
AN EVEN MORE DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT IN THE AUTOPILOT EXPERIMENT. THIS MAN HAS COLLECTED A RENTAL TESLA TO PERFORM HIS PRANKS. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=RMVOALPQHJC JUST AS SOON AS HE DRIVES AWAY FROM THE HIRE DEPOT AND ON AN UNDIVIDED BUSY ROAD HE ENGAGES AUTOPILOT AND GOES HANDS FREE WHILST TALIKING TO THE CAMERA. EVERY CUSTOMER THAT RENTS ONE OF THESE CARS IS LIKELY TO DO THE SAME THING. THIS IS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH. PLEASE DO NOT WAIT ANY LONGER TO COMPLETE YOUR INVESTIGATION OF AUTOPILOT. HAVE THIS SYSTEM DISABLED RIGHT NOW UNTIL IT CAN BE PROVEN TO BE SAFE.
HERE IS A NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO IN WHICH THE OWNER PRANKS PASSENGERS USING AUTOPILOT. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=UML4PML22PM THIS IS MEANT TO BE FUNNY. I DOUBT THAT THE OTHER ROAD USERS OR INDEED THE PASSENGERS WOULD HAVE FOUND IT SO AMUSING IF THEY HAD KNOWN THAT THEIR LIVES WERE BEING PLACED IN DANGER. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREVENT OWNERS FRO DOING STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS TWICE AS SAFE AS A HUMAN DRIVER. I INTEND TO REPORT THIS CASE TO THE HIGHWAY PATROL AND HAVE PRESERVED THE VIDEO AS EVIDENCE. PLEASE HALT THIS EXPERIMENT IMMEDIATELY
HERE IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE WAY IN WHICH OWNERS ARE BEHAVING IN REAL LIFE. THE PROPOSED UPGRADES TO THE AUTOPILOT WILL DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THE BEHAVIOR SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=AEU5OL2IR4M IN COMMON WITH THE SELF-REPORTED BEHAVIOR OF OWNERS ON THE FORUMS, DRIVERS ARE DRIVING HANDS FREE EXCEPT FOR GIVING THE WHEEL A GENTLE TWEAK JUST OFTEN ENOUGH TO PREVENT THE HOLD WHEEL NAG. 90% OF THE TIME IT IS HANDS FREE. THE SYSTEM DOES GUARD AGAINST THE DRIVER HAVING TOTALLY FALLEN ASLEEP BUT IT DOES NOT CAUSE HIM TO KEEP HANDS ON THE WHEEL AT ALL TIMES TO ENSURE SAFE CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. IF THERE IS ANY MALFUNCTION OF THE AUTOPILOT OR A MECHANICAL FAILURE OR BLOWN TIRE THIS HANDS FREE DRIVING CAN KILL IN AN INSTANT. I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A KNOW ALL. I AM TRYING TO COUNTER THE FALSE CONFIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN THE AUTOPILOT AND THE UNWILLINGNESS OF TESLA OWNERS TO DESIST FROM HANDS FREE DRIVING.
HERE IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. HERE IS A RECENTLY UPLOADED VIDEO OF A TESLA EMPLOYEE GIVING A CUSTOMER A TEST DRIVE AND DEMONSTRATION OF AUTOPILOT. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=TBCX2O-OTSO THE DEMONSTRATOR IS ONLY PLAYING LIP-SERVICE TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT DRIVERS SHOULD KEEP HANDS ON THE WHEEL. HE ASSURES THE DRIVER THAT THE AUTOPILOT IS PERFECTLY SAFE AND ALLOWS HIM TO TAKE HIS HANDS OFF THE WHEEL AND DRIVE WHILE DISTRACTED. HE EVEN REACHES OVER AND PUTS HIS HANDS THROUGH THE SPOKES OF THE STEERING WHEEL TO PERFORM AN AUTOMATIC LANE CHANGE WITHOUT EVEN GLANCING IN THE MIRROR. IF THIS IS THE KIND OF INSTRUCTION BEING GIVEN TO NEW OWNERS THEN THE SITUATION WILL ONLY GET WORSE WHEN THE NEW OWNER BECOMES OVERCONFIDENT IN THE SYSTEM AND PERHAPS INSTRUCTS HIS PARTNER OR OTHER PEOPLE TO HAVE A GO AT LETTING AUTOPILOT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. THE PROBLEM IS NOT JUST THAT THE SYSTEM IS FLAWED BUT THAT THE WAY IT IS BEING PITCHED TO CUSTOMERS IS RECKLESS IN THE EXTREME. PLEASE STOP THIS EXPERIMENT IMMEDIATELY.
TESLA S OFFER REAR SEAT OPTION FOR KIDS BUT ITS NOT SAFE FOR THE KIDS AND TEHY SHOULD STOP OFFERING THAT. THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS NO AIR VENT FOR THE ERAR SEATS . ANOTHER WORDS KIDS WILL FEEL HOT IN THE SUMMER AND COLD IN THE WINTER WHICH COULD RESULTS IN INCIDENTS . I HAVE TALKED WITH TESLA CORPORATES AND THEY DONT FEEL LIKE CARING ABOUT . WONDERING HOW WOULD SO CALLED VEHICLE SAFETY DEPARTMENT APPROVED IT WHICH CHECKING THE FACTS AND SAFETY FOR THE KIDS . HOPE TO GET ANSWER AND RESOLUTION ON THIS
HERE IS A MODEL S IN THE SALVAGE YARD. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=22506868&ROWID=2&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS THE LH FRONT STEERING KNUCKLE HAS SNAPPED IN HALF. THE STEEL BUMPER BAR WHICH EXTENDS ALMOST THE FULL WIDTH OF THE CAR IS UNDAMAGED. IT IS MOST UNLIKELY THAT THE DAMAGE TO THE FRONT SUSPENSION WAS THE RESULT OF THE CRASH. IT IS FAR MORE LIKELY THAT IT WAS THE CAUSE OF IT. PLEASE INVESTIGATE WHY SO MANY EXAMPLES OF SNAPPED SUSPENSIONS ARE OCCURRING ON TESLAS THAN ON ANY COMPARABLE VEHICLE.