NHTSA Owner Complaint Log
This page lists owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA for the 2022 Jeep Wrangler. Complaints are unverified consumer reports submitted to NHTSA and do not by themselves prove a defect or defect rate.
Data synced from NHTSA on May 4, 2026
On Thursday, November 3rd, I was on the freeway and was going 70 miles per hour when the car suddenly started violently shaking without wind turbulence or any external cause for about three minutes. I slowed down and the shaking stopped. No warning signs or messages were displayed in the car prior to, nor during the sudden, violent shaking of the vehicle. My safety was put at risk in the form of sudden shock and fear that made my heart race and could have potentially caused a heart attack as I am a 52-year-old woman. I called the Redlands Jeep dealership around 8 am. I came in for an appointment on Friday, the 4th and the same violent shaking occurred around the same mileage. The person who inspected my vehicle told me to not drive on the freeway anymore and that it may have been a problem with my tires in terms of the tires needing to be balanced. Later on, a representative called and said that the issue was not with the tires and was with the Steering Damper. The maintenance/repair appointment has been postponed until the 23rd of November, which has caused me distress and more gas expenses than necessary.
Vehicles tires begin to shake violently at speeds in the 50-70 mph range after hitting a small bump on the road/highway. The condition are so violent, that I have to slow the vehicle from 70+ mph to about 15-20 mph to stop the shaking that creates safety issue for other drivers on the road
The front end of the vehicle shakes uncontrollably at speeds of 45 mph or higher—issue is often referred to as “Death Wobble”. The vehicle currently has less than 9,000 miles and I have brought it into the dealer where the vehicle was purchased brand new in February of 2022. The dealer informed me that it is a common problem, but that the manufacturer allows each dealer service department to order only a couple of the replacement parts (steering damper) each month. The dealer service department avoided answering any of my concerns, such as, will it get worse, can I lose control of my vehicle, etc.
Driving on the interstate with Adaptive Cruise Control on at 72mph the vehicle loss power. Error message appeared, "Performance limit pull over put in p and start " plus "service charging system". Vehicle quickly decelerated and luckly I had a place to pull over out of traffic. I then restarted the vehicle without issue.
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact stated that after starting the vehicle, the ABS warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to a local dealer, where it was diagnosed that the ABS module needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired; however, the contact stated that the failure reoccurred after starting the vehicle. The vehicle was then taken back to the dealer, where the failure code was cleared and the vehicle was diagnosed and determined that the ABS module needed to be replaced again; however, the part for the repair was on backorder. The vehicle remained at the dealer awaiting the part for the repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 3,000.
Military member stationed overseas. Purchased vehicle through Military Auto Source. Dealer has to take wrangler into local Jeep dealer. Dealer heard banging on right side of wheel. When local Jeep dealer completed inspection they noted the chassiss weld completely missing. This is a huge safety issue. This car has not even been driven 100 miles yet. I would like someone to look into this issue. My Wrangler can’t possibly be the only one in this situation.
Rear window glass exploded out of no where
Svc 4wd light went on in the car after start-up, and i tried to reverse from my parking spot with the wheel turned and it felt like the emergency brakes were on. I stopped to check and they were not. i tried to reverse again and the car starts making a grinding noise and jerking motion as it pulls out slowly. When I drive straight I almost can’t accelerate and the car randomly jerks and stops which could cause an accident if the person behind me doesn’t brake quick enough. I immediately brought it to the Jeep dealership since this is the second time in a week this has happened but the first time it seemed to resolve itself. The service tech put a device to check the cars computer and I was told the car is no longer driveable and said something is wrong with the transmission and transfer case.they did not have loaners or rentals so now I am careless.
Death wobble at highway speeds in a 2022 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with full stock equipment and roughly 3,500 miles in October 2022. No previous experience or difficulties with vehicle but when temperatures lowered to freezing for the first time, the vehicle had significantly diminished performance on stability. After the initial death wobble, carefully driving the wheel continued to pulsate when hitting cracks in the pavement (wheels going into a downward bump, bumps in the up direction did not impact steering as heavily). Took more than 9 weeks to be see by the Dealerships after calling multiple dealers and working with Jeepwave- warranty. After the vehicle was confirm to have a Front Track Bar defect and Steering Dampener defect, the dealer informed me the car "was safe to drive" until parts were available with a 5-6 week window before they'd arrive - due to another defect my vehicle was in the shop for most of that. Upon return of the vehicle, immediate test drive by myself noted the steering is now improved but still inconsistently experiencing the steering wheel shaking (no vibration in the pedals but vibration is noticable for passengers sitting in the vehicle). Called the Dealership again, was told this is just the 1st fix they've been told to try and it'll be another 3 weeks prior to the dealership bringing the vehicle in for "additional diagnostics" without a clear plan for what parts they plan to replace next. Concern for me to send this note - the Vehicle at speeds as low as 62 mph starts to have a pulsating wheel that if roads are icy, an unsuspecting person were to drive my brand new vehicle with only 6,500 miles at this point, or a particular bump arises and fully loses control. Jeep knew of the issue and did not expedite my ability to get into a dealer - they played dumb on the issue until it was in the shop. There has been no urgency on my driving this vehicle as they deem it "safe to drive".
driving with no foot on gas and the jeep suddently lurched forward. unintended acceleration is what it was. the first time this happened was in October 2022 and i was in a basement parking garaged and ended up in the wall with the air bags deploying. it took 5 months for the jeep to be repaired. it happened again this morning, October 3, 2023 while going to the gym at 5 am. there were no vehicles on the road and hence i was able to manage
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact received notification of the NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V768000 (Electrical System) however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The local dealer was notified of the recall notice and confirmed that the parts were not available for the recall remedy. The manufacturer was notified, and the contact was informed that the parts were anticipated to be available in December. The contact had not experienced a failure. VIN tool confirms parts not available.
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact received notification of the NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V768000 (Electrical System) however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount time for the recall repair. The local dealer was notified of the recall notice and confirmed that the parts were not available for the recall remedy. The manufacturer was notified, and the contact was informed that the parts were anticipated to be available in December. The contact had not experienced a failure. VIN tool confirms parts not available.
The vehicle violently shakes when it encounters a bump, pothole, or other road surface deviation while driving over 60mph. The steering wheel and front wheels of the vehicle both do this until speed is reduced to under 50mph. Control of the vehicle is greatly reduced during this period. The vehicle is currently at the dealership with 3,000 miles and was purchased new in June of 2022. There are no warning lamps, messages, or other symptoms that appear prior to this behavior. The behavior is consistent, occurring anytime its driven over 60mph and a road surface deviation is encountered.
In October, my brand new car straight from factory with only 3900 miles on it broke down at a gas station. The dashboard said “service charging system”. The car would not move or allow me to switch gears. It was locked. It took 3.5 hours for a tow truck to come. The car was in the shop for 30 days. And the dealership determined the issue was related to faulty wiring harness that many Jeep Wrangler 4xe have been having issues with. After the dealership resolved the wiring harness issue, I was delivered the car back home on November 11. After driving the car for 24 hours, the car stopped and broke down on an interstate while I was driving 65 mph. The car came to a sudden stop and the wheels locked. All the cars behind me braked suddenly and I was stuck in the middle of an interstate hoping cars wouldn’t pile up and crash into me. The car dashboard and interior lights were flickering. I kept restarting the car and after 4 min. the car turned back on. This Jeep Wrangler 4xe is repeated having incidents where it’s power shuts completely off while driving and it’s very dangerous. There will be a fatality on day of this problem is not resolved.
drive at highway got the following error messages "service charging system" and "service transmission." I also got an error message on my Jeep U connect app "a charge fault has occurred." I'm lucky to be alive. At the time, I had two-thirds full tank of gas and 6% battery charge (see attachment).
Brand new 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4xe randomly stalled in traffic. There was about 450 miles on the vehicle. This happened about 2 weeks after I purchased the vehicle. I've seen that others have been having this issue and there's even a lawsuit regarding this. I had two passengers in the car with me and I was driving at night with a line of cars behind me down a windy road and could have caused a pile up. When I first got in the car, the pure gas range was around 135 miles. I put the car in electric and drove for about 3 minutes till I arrived at my destination. Right after I put the car in park, the low fuel sign came on but there was still around 126 miles left of gas so I was very confused. I drove for another 5 minutes and this time the fuel dropped down to 34 miles. So within a matter of minutes, I lost 100 miles in gas range. I went to fuel the car and when I turned it off and on, the low fuel sign disappeared and the car was back to 126 miles of gas range before I even put any additional fuel into it. I figured this was just a fuel sensor issue and ignored it. After I added fuel, it drove fine for 30 minutes or so and then as I was driving home, I noticed that the car seemed to just suddenly slow down and I got a warning sign to put my car in park and turn it off and on. I was able to pull to the side but I noticed that on the side where you can choose between, electric, hybrid, and e-save, all of the options were not lighted. It appeared as though the engine had stalled. Once I restarted the car, it ran fine. I do not believe I received a check engine light or any other warning signs except for the car telling me to restart and once I did, everything went away. Some folks on the 4xe forum said to check the fusebox and 90% of the fuses were loose or not seated properly. However, this should not be related to the fuel sensor issue. Brought it to a dealership and they said nothing was wrong with it and no codes came up.
Vehicle would not start. Drove to a distant High School. Parked. Went to leave and the vehicle will not start. I had to have the vehicle towed to the dealership. I have been advised that it is a Hybrid Engine Coupling. There were no warning lights.
The Jeep when driving at above 50mph will hit a bump and the front tires and steering wheel starts shaking uncontrollably. Upon research I’ve found that this is called a “death wobble” on a Jeep. It has a history on Jeeps. This happened with under 5k miles on the Jeep with no changes to the vehicle to the tires or suspension which came with it from the factory. I took it back to the dealership in Ripon WI and they have indicated that this is common in Jeeps. They indicated the dealerships CFO’s wife had the same issue on her new Jeep recently. They have put a new steering dampener on order but it is on back order.
3 months after purchase. I Driving on highway 70mph, pressed clutch peddle as I was exiting and slowing down. clutch literally combusted (and fly wheel). Jeep was smoking and smelled like fire. Coasted to side of road and rolled into gas station: car wasn’t operable and had to be towed. Thankfully not a lot of traffic as this was a very UNSAFE SITUATION FOR MYSELF AND MY DAUGHTER! Clutch and flywheel were replaced by dealer after a few weeks. No warning lights. I’ve since had TWO CLUTCHES RELACED. A TOTAL OF THREE! I have contacted chysler (denied my claim) and filed a complaint with the AG. I do NOT feel safe driving this vehicle, I have major anxiety when I am driving in Traffic because I get wanting to release the clutch peddle due to overheating. The jeep sits in the driveway whenever possible due to safety concerns. And I’m PAYING MONTHLY PAYMENTS. It’s frustrated and EXTREMELY UNSAFE!
Less than a 6 months of having this brand new jeep, the Initial failure of transmission happened while driving down highway. Jeep smelled like it was on fire and I lost all acceleration. Th transmission literally fell into debris. I coasted off the highway and was able to make it into a parking lot, thankfully. Jeep was towed and repair of trans and flywheel took about 4-6 weeks. Around 6k later, trans went out again. I knew bc the transmission began slipping and the burning smell was back. As of, 10/16/23, my jeep is in again for a new transmission. It began slipping again and the brining smell was back. I’m being told the parts may take time due to the UAW strike. I’m again without a vehicle. 3 times with a brand new jeep.
The reverse collision detection sensor are randomly activating when jeep is in reverse. It is available for inspection. The safety of other is put at risk at the technology is unreliable and immediately goes off when the jeep is shifted into reverse. The problem has been reproduced by an independent service center. The vehicle has been inspected by others. Their are not warning lamps or any indication from the dash or vechical that anything is wrong. They appeared from factory/ start of ownership.
My vehicle has been nearly underivable since purchased. Several times I have taken the car in for things like: No power. The car will drive, but slowly and with no "get up and go". It takes quite a bit of time to get to legal driving speed. This has happened on a highway at least once, and multiple times on regular roads. My electrical system has failed, and all components, including my battery, has shut down. This happened on the highway on my way to work. I lost time at work as well as my car for 34 days. (This is the second time it has happened). My gas tank cover refusing to open/my gas tank refusing to accept gas. My electric battery getting too hot and burning through wires, including my coolant tubes, which in turn, shut my car down. This happened on a major road. All of these things have caused immediate safety to myself and others that have been in my car when it stopped working. I have thankfully been able to get myself off the road in all of these instances without causing an accident. There have been several break downs where I had to have someone come get me, and I have had it towed several times to the dealership as well. I have broken down entirely on the highway several times, slowing to a stop and having people needing to drive around me, or stop to help. I have taken the vehicle in many, many times and have been without my car for over 40 days (if I counted, it would be over 60 days). The dealership has told me it's a 4xe problem, but then lists the problem on paper as various things (coolant leaks, high voltage battery problem). At this point, I am afraid to drive it, as I have 1 active recall with no remedy available and a few alerts. My check engine light came on again this morning with no reasoning behind it, and the Jeep says to check ABS braking system and electrical systems. It's my very expensive daily driver. It has been inspected by two dealerships, with me taking into one dealership at least 12 times for recalls and repairs.
I was driving on the highway at speeds of 75 mph and the car suddenly stopped entirely and began decelerating at a VERY quick speed to almost 30 mph in just a few seconds. Luckily, nobody was behind me, otherwise the speed at which it was slowing down would have caused a collision. The car would not accelerate in the time that it was decelerating and the gas pedal stopped working entirely. There were no warning signs or messages that appeared, and the car said that electric mode was unavailable at this time then began to decelerate. I allowed the car to come to a complete stop and then restarted it with no issue until the exact situation happened again, at highway speeds, for a second time after only around 300 miles since the first incident. Then I realized there was a problem with the car and it was not a one off incident.
Vehicle was being driven at about 10 mph or less in a busy and congested area. left turn was made. There was an immediate loss of braking and steering with this turn. The vehicle engine began to roar and the tachometer went to highest number. Just about all warning lights on the dash were flashing and there was audible beeping as well. The ignition was turned off but all warning lights continued to flash and there were audible beeping. The vehicle had locked itself into an "Auto Park" mode, and it was unable to be driven or placed into gear. The battery was disconnected, allowing the computer to reset. Although the vehicle continued to malfunction, I was able to drive it out of the main traffic and into a parking lot. A wrecker was called, and the vehicle was transported to a local Jeep dealership. The local dealership kept the vehicle for several days, and tested it extensively. They were able to reproduce the loss of steering. They found some erroneous solders on a component, the "Star Connector". It is believed that this may have shorted something in the electrical system. The safety of myself and family and all others in the vicinity of the Jeep 4xe were in grave danger when the initial brake, steering and engine failure occurred. Other people may well have been run over during this event. The problem of loss of steering was reproduced by the Jeep dealership that worked on the 4xe, and they feel that it was corrected by replacing the Star Connector. I have paperwork from the dealership to document the incident. The vehicle is available for inspection and I currently have to drive it, although I have loss of conficence and feel afraid to drive it.
car is less than 3 months old. when I am driving at highway speeds 55-65 mph the steering wheel starts to vibrate and shack to a point, I have to slow down to get control of the wheel once again. the vibration is so bad that some people may lose control of the car. It has happened off and on with no pattern (random). Jeep dealership has NO clue to wat it is.
The car has twice come to almost a complete stop while driving as if it lost power with a close to full charge and plenty of gas. Car goes into a blinking D mode and has to be put in park and restarted. Happen in daily traffic very dangerous!
Vehicle excessively started leaking fluid from the front end of the vehicle. The car then reported a message on the dashboard "transmission hot", thus explaining the fluid. Transmission fluid was leaking from the pan excessively. Dealership stated there was a recall on the water sealant, however I do not see any recalls on the website. They seem to be making a false claim on recall. Perris Valley Jeep Center, City Perris CA
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle experienced loosened steering control. The dealer was made aware of the failure; however, the vehicle was not diagnosed nor repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 186.
Purchased this Jeep brand new and 2 days later I went to start it in my garage and instrument panel lights all started flashing. It was cycling through all of the error codes with emergency lights flashing and would not start. I let the vehicle sit and after a couple of hours it restarted but the check engine light was on. I test drove the vehicle around the block and it stopped in traffic. Vehicle was towed back to the dealership where it was purchased where it has been since 7/13/2022. Originally I was told it was a shifter and that they replaced it but now I am being told it is the entire wiring harness. The shop manager at the dealership has tried resetting the error codes several times with no resolve and he will not put his stamp of approval that this vehicle is safe to drive. I am not comfortable putting my family in this vehicle.
During routine driving at highway speed, the vehicle’s electronic stability control (ESC) warning light illuminated on the dashboard. Within seconds, the vehicles check engine light (CEL) also illuminated. At that point, the vehicle stalled without battery or engine power via any internal combustion or battery power. I was able to safely coast the vehicle to the side of the road narrowly avoiding any accident. I shut off the vehicle hoping this was some sort of electronic error since the vehicle only had 800 miles. However, when restarting the vehicle, both warning lights still remained illuminated and would not clear. I was able to successfully have the vehicle taken back to my home while inoperable. I began researching various forums pertaining to the Jeep 4XE with many owners claiming the vehicle has fuse seating issues. Upon inspecting the fuse box, nearly 15 fuses were improperly seated. Once seated by me, I was able to start the vehicle and the ESC and CEL light cleared and normal vehicle operations now exist. My wife and I live in permanent fear that this type of vehicle will stall again and we will be unable to dodge traffic to coast to the shoulder. Please investigate this troubling concern on this vehicle model. Thank you. The vehicle and components are available for inspection. The incident has not been replicated and a dealer has not seen the vehicle yet.
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact stated while driving approximately 65 MPH, the contact drove over a depression on the roadway and the vehicle started to vibrate. The contact stated that the vibration was transmitted to the steering wheel. The contact stated that she depressed the brake pedal and the vehicle lurched to the left and the right. The contact took her foot off the accelerator pedal and the vehicle slowed. The contact stated no warning light was illuminated. The contact had not taken the vehicle to a local dealer or independent mechanic. The contact stated that the failure had become a recurring failure at various speeds. The vehicle was not diagnosed and was not repaired. The manufacturer was not informed of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 23,000.
Driving 25 to 30mph, car completely died and the D on the gear shift started blinking. Unable to get to side of road due to traffic. My husband and I were at risk of being rear ended as the car died without any warning. There was also a large CLUNK sound when it died.
I just bought this vehicle new less than two weeks ago. The, Service Shifter, message started the day after purchase. I took back to the dealership today. Before getting home "Service Shifter" message happened twice. I am taking it back again tomorrow and they are giving me a rental and are going to look into it more thoroughly. After researching this message I have found that it is very common and has led to vehicles going into neutral while driving.
Purchased brand new 392 Jeep Wrangler with second set of factory doors. Unfortunately, water will come through when it rains. This is a hazard for electronics, mold, etc. Took to dealer, who was unable to fix, but acknowledged defect.
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact stated that while stopped at a traffic light, the accelerator pedal was depressed, and the vehicle hesitated and failed to respond as needed. The contact stated that the vehicle stalled. No warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was towed to a local dealer who diagnosed that a transmission cable needed to be replaced. The transmission cable was replaced; however, the failure became progressively worse. The vehicle was taken several times to the dealer however, no cause for the failure was found. The contact stated that several unknown parts were replaced. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 600.
My vehicles check engine light went on for the first time with approximately 2,286 miles driven on the brand new car. The dealer indicated is was a "coolant issue" but did not provide any additional information. I dropped off my vehicle for repair on 4/25/22 at my local dealer. The vehicle was not fixed until 5/4/22. The check engine light went on for a second time on 5/29/22. When taking the vehicle to my local auto store the report indicated another "coolant" issue. This should not be happening on a new car with less than 4,000 miles on it and 3 months old. This issue has been confirmed by Liberty Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram located at 1000 E Park Avenue, Libertyville Illinois 60048. I am concerned for several reasons. (1) This could be a sign of additional issues, especially with under 5,000 miles on the vehicle. (2) I am concerned that unless this issue is fixed completely by Jeep the vehicle is at risk for serious malfunction while driving which would put the safety of myself along with anyone driving or in the vehicle at risk for a serious accident and even the possibility of death. (3) I am also concerned that continuous coolant malfunctions will put the engine block at risk which would be a serious safety and financial issue. The more stress on the engine and components the lifespan of the vehicle could be diminished and resale value severely affected. There were not indications of anything wrong with the vehicle prior to the check engine light coming on both instances. The vehicle is available for inspections upon request.
Transmission has been leaking transmission fluid since date of purchase. At ~13,000 miles, the dealer replaced the entire transmission under warranty. The new transmission is also leaking transmission fluid. Since transmission fluid is flammable, this is a safety concern when the dripping transmission fluid contacts the hot exhaust tubing.
Vehicle purchased with 12 miles on it, drove it home and parked and locked it. Later in the evening when I went to get into the vehicle the key fob would not unlock the vehicle. Went to unlock it with the key and anti theft was engaged. Received multiple messages from Sirius Guardian stating our vehicle was stolen. Unable to shut the alarm off, unlock or lock the vehicle, or start the vehicle. No warning deployed on UConnect, just through Guardian but the vehicle is immovable and inoperable. Vehicle is currently at the dealership.
While coasting or braking, message appears stating Performance limited service fuel system. Fuel economy is affected, as well.
The Wrangler accelerated while doing regenerative braking or while my foot was on the brake. This caused it to hit a building. It is available for inspection. My safety and my child's safety was put at risk when contact was made with a building. Those inside the building were also at risk. The problem has not been reproduced yet as the incident just happened. The vehicle was towed to a dealer. Insurance will be inspecting. Police were called to scene of accident. I will file a claim with Jeep as well. I was running it in full electric mode and I don't remember any issues. The vehicle was just re wired as well.
On 03/03/2022 I purchase a new 2door jeep wrangler s 2022 at the Victoria dealership in Texas. During the test drive, while driving on the highway at 70 mph, I expressed my concern about the steering wheel acting out and feeling loose. It was a very short drive. The dealership personnel reassured me that everything was fine with the car and I would be safe while driving it. I was ready to drive back home to Corpus Christi. Unfortunately, the 140 mi ride turned into a nightmare. After speeding to 60 mph on the highway, the car started acting weird. The wheel felt loose, the steering not under control. The next curve on the road, and I completely lost control over the car; the car just went into the right lane, and I was lucky the truck behind managed to stop. And then it happened again when I was slowing down. I had to stop to calm down. I was shaking and was scared to keep driving home. It took me over 3 hours to get home—the most extended 3 hours ever. I kept the speed 50 mph and below the whole time, and my sister was driving behind me. On 03/05/2022 the vehicle was at the dealership in Corpus Christi to be checked and the problem fixed. They test drove it, find a wobble when hitting a bump, changed a part. The main problem of the loose steering wheel hasn't been fixed. At higher speeds the wheel goes left and right, and the car does not follow; I don't have control of the vehicle and it goes into the right lane on its own. Very unsafe!
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. The contact stated that while driving approximately 65 MPH after refueling, the check engine warning light illuminated. There was exhaust smoke coming from near the driver's side door and a burning odor started entering the cabin of the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed and determined that the burning odor and exhaust smoke was coming from the catalytic convertor. The catalytic convertor had been replaced; however, the failure reoccurred. The contact stated while driving approximately 15 MPH and then pulling over to park, there was white cloud of smoke coming from the driver's side of the vehicle into the cabin of the vehicle. The contact stated that the cabin was full of a strong burning odor. The contact opened the driver's door and became aware that the exhaust smoke was coming from the catalytic convertor. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where the cause of the failure was confirmed. The vehicle had been returned to the dealer. The vehicle had not been repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and a case was filed. The failure mileage was 3,000.